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  1.  08-29-2010  02:00 PM
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    Wink Valerian


    First and foremost, I apologize if this may be in the wrong section.

    I've heard many good things about valerian, and have started taking it as my sleeping supplement. I've heard some other uses of it, however. I've looked on Erowid: Erowid Valerian Vault and have seen some reports of it as being mildly psychedelic. Has anyone "overdosed" on this, intentionally or not, and gotten this effect? I'm mainly just curious, since it seems plausible due to the serotonin release (i believe it was serotonin). Thouhts?



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    Ive used this many times. Have sleep apnea or something. Not so bad anymore. But I used to eat handfuls at a time, never had any psychedelic effects from it. Try some Valerian root and melotonin together. Had great results with these puppies combined.

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    Ned2sleep has melatonin, valerian and anther ingredient.

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    I think he was "worried" about overdosing it. Could be wrong though

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    Originally Posted by JoHNnyNuTZ View Post
    Ive used this many times. Have sleep apnea or something. Not so bad anymore. But I used to eat handfuls at a time, never had any psychedelic effects from it. Try some Valerian root and melotonin together. Had great results with these puppies combined.
    Hmm I use valerian root, I may have to try adding melatonin to it!

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    The main reason I ask is because of both wanting the sleep affects (which it has worked these last couple of nights), as well as using it recreationally for the hell of it. I've been taking Sleep these last few nights (has melatonin, tryptophan, hops flower, and some other sh** lol).

    My main reason for making this thread, however, was to see if the use of it recreationally is possible. I've used an alkaloid extract from valerian recreationally before, but just was wondering if anyone had ever gotten these effects just from an accidental overdose. I don't think I'd ever really use this recreationally much, but the psychedelic effects from my use before were nice lol.

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    Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    Hmm I use valerian root, I may have to try adding melatonin to it!

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    Like I said, check out Need2Sleep!

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    melatonin (5mg) and valerian root combo puts me in a coma lol

    So does 50mg benadryl...but the valerian puts your mind in a "sleep environment" and melatonin actually induces sleep. Melatonin is the hormone that is released by your body to make you sleepy when darkness occurs (closing eyes, night time, etc). Every wonder when you were in school and the teacher turned the lights off you got more tired? Melatonin

    So yea val and mel is a great stack
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    Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    melatonin (5mg) and valerian root combo puts me in a coma lol

    So does 50mg benadryl...but the valerian puts your mind in a "sleep environment" and melatonin actually induces sleep. Melatonin is the hormone that is released by your body to make you sleepy when darkness occurs (closing eyes, night time, etc). Every wonder when you were in school and the teacher turned the lights off you got more tired? Melatonin
    Need2Sleep
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    6mg melatonin
    50mg 5-HTP
    400mg Valerian Root

    Less than 30$ and free shipping..

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    Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    Need2Sleep
    75 servings
    6mg melatonin
    50mg 5-HTP
    400mg Valerian Root

    Less than 30$ and free shipping..
    that is a perfect blend.

    The exact doses I take of all of the above. 75 servings is sweet!
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    Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    that is a perfect blend.

    The exact doses I take of all of the above. 75 servings is sweet!
    **** properly doses ALL of their products..

    Even if I wasn't a rep, I still would be saying that..

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    Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    Need2Sleep
    75 servings
    6mg melatonin
    50mg 5-HTP
    400mg Valerian Root

    Less than 30$ and free shipping..
    Sleep Optimizer by Jarrow
    GABA 100mg
    Hops Flower 100mg
    Valerian Root 400mg
    Lemon Balm (leaves) 100mg
    L-Tryptophan 300mg
    Melatonin 0.3mg

    This stuff was $17/30 days. So far it's been working well for me. Hopefully this can become a sticky for us with insomnia lol

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    Originally Posted by nynone View Post
    Sleep Optimizer by Jarrow
    GABA 100mg
    Hops Flower 100mg
    Valerian Root 400mg
    Lemon Balm (leaves) 100mg
    L-Tryptophan 300mg
    Melatonin 0.3mg

    This stuff was $17/30 days. So far it's been working well for me. Hopefully this can become a sticky for us with insomnia lol
    0.3mg or 3mg?

    Big difference there. 0.3mg is worthless
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    Originally Posted by nynone View Post
    Sleep Optimizer by Jarrow
    GABA 100mg
    Hops Flower 100mg
    Valerian Root 400mg
    Lemon Balm (leaves) 100mg
    L-Tryptophan 300mg
    Melatonin 0.3mg

    This stuff was $17/30 days. So far it's been working well for me. Hopefully this can become a sticky for us with insomnia lol
    GABA that low :O.. I used to dose up to 5 grams pre bed

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    Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    0.3mg or 3mg?

    Big difference there. 0.3mg is worthless
    It is 0.3mg though I honestly think it's a possible typo... then again I don't think these labels have to be checked lol. Either way, this stuff has been kickin' some ass not only with me, but other people I know who've tried it. 0.3mg of melatonin is worthless, so I don't know why they even bother if it's that little... I honestly think it's a label error, but it has been around for a while...

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    Originally Posted by nynone View Post
    It is 0.3mg though I honestly think it's a possible typo... then again I don't think these labels have to be checked lol. Either way, this stuff has been kickin' some ass not only with me, but other people I know who've tried it. 0.3mg of melatonin is worthless, so I don't know why they even bother if it's that little... I honestly think it's a label error, but it has been around for a while...
    They actually sell .3mg melatonin tabs in store lol...

    The valerian root is what is putting you to bed my man!

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    valerian root also works on the same pathways as benzos like Xanex and Valium work on- it is not intoxicating(have used both to great extent) like eithero f thos drugs- merley works on the same pathways

    I take 2 in the day and two at night as I suffer from anxiety- works well- I dont take xanex anymore- abused the hell out of em- this stuff works
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    Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    They actually sell .3mg melatonin tabs in store lol...

    The valerian root is what is putting you to bed my man!
    Sounds good to me . Figured it might be the valerian working it's magic on me since melatonin has never worked for me before. And i think it's funny they sell melatonin in 0.3mg tabs... that's gotta be placebo level IMO.

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    Originally Posted by nynone View Post
    Sounds good to me . Figured it might be the valerian working it's magic on me since melatonin has never worked for me before. And i think it's funny they sell melatonin in 0.3mg tabs... that's gotta be placebo level IMO.
    lol, believe it or not, it actually works on people..

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