lets challenge alcar for just a minute
- 08-26-2010, 07:34 PM
lets challenge alcar for just a minute
A lot of people say they feel leaner on it, but a lot of people also say that "no bloat" creatine is a good thing, even though most of us know that the only creatine bloat is in the muscle, and not over the muscle making us look fat. So lets challnge ALCAR for just a minute.
Before anyone starts bashing me, I just whant to say that Im not bashing ALCAR, but I think this will be an interesting read, and we all can learn
We know that injectible carnitie works, but to much carnitine can be hard on the thyroid in the long run.
ALCAR seems to only really be popular amoung people like us, who really look for new supplements and nutrients. It's not showing up in the mainstream preworkout products, and although you can get some ALCAR pills next to the other supplements at the grocery store, ALCAR still hasn't made it into any popular weightloss products.
I don't know how to conclude except to say feel free to discuss!
- 08-26-2010, 08:58 PM
08-26-2010, 10:29 PM
08-26-2010, 11:01 PM
08-27-2010, 04:11 AM
Man, no one jumped i to defend this stuff. Personally, if Im going to take a carnitine, Ill stick with ALCAR, because it exist in nature, and Im a hippy.
08-27-2010, 10:16 AM
08-27-2010, 10:18 AM
08-27-2010, 01:51 PM
08-27-2010, 02:02 PM
Cant bash a supplement if you havent used it. Some people wont respond to it and in some cases people are using inferior product. ALCAR does seem to produce a slimming effect, it also seems to enhance endogenous Test and boost energy, of course this is all anecdotal and possibly placebo, but, Im glad its useful. Anyone else using it regularly and noticeing these effects?
08-27-2010, 09:47 PM
Ive used it. Ive actually had a hundred gram container that I use occasionally for a whole year now. I don't like it before social situations. It takes away my humor. I mixed some with my Jack3d today, and hated it. It made me too mellow. I like to feel like my life is a scene from Rambo 4 when Im training, and this stuff made me emotionally neutral.
08-27-2010, 11:42 PM
08-28-2010, 12:10 AM
08-28-2010, 12:22 AM
08-28-2010, 03:03 PM
I like ALCAR on my off days when not stimming. It perks me up in a nice calm way. I am also using LCLT(Protocol) post workout and liking the recovery from it.
Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons
08-28-2010, 03:42 PM
I'd say that ALCAR has taken hold more in the nootropic market. Even there, you need so much of it, and it is so sour and clumpy, that it is never going to be an important part of a many-ingredient pill. I personally need 1-2 g of ALCAR to feel anything, but it is very noticeable to me as smooth energy and general alertness. I am very confident that I could detect this versus placebo.
To me, the possible lipolytic and/or androgen receptor clearing effects are of secondary importance, but the scientific evidence is pretty solid. I think that creatine has spoiled our thinking about supplements. If ALCAR could make, say, 3 lbs. of difference of fat loss or muscle gain over half a year, AND give me the very noticeable mental benefits and be a generally health-promoting supplement (e.g., an antioxidant), then it is easily worth its low cost. However, there is no way that I could feel those 3 lbs. over 6 months -- the change would be too gradual.
Many people would disagree and say that half a pound difference per month is nothing -- they can gain 2 lbs. per month training hard and drinking milk, etc., or "I can't feel it like I do [stimulant + niacin + kitchen sink pre-workout powder]." We all have to weigh the pluses and minuses for ourselves.
However, keep in mind that one reason that you won't see ALCAR catch on in the mainstream is that you need so much of it (doesn't fit in a single capsule with other ingredients). It only makes sense for the dedicated, intelligent person who is willing to either take multiple capsules, or who is willing to dip his 1/4-tsp measuring spoon into a jar of sour tasting powder for a heaping scoop and then slam it down with some liquid.
08-28-2010, 06:42 PM
What is one of the best post-workout drinks you can take? A: Chocolate milk, yet products continuously come out claiming they have the best post-workout shake or powder that will help you recover the best and get you the most gains.
That said, ALCAR is on my top 5 supplement list of all time. Very few other supplements will give you such a large spectrum of benefits.
ďLord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life"- John 6:68
WHAT has science offered?
08-28-2010, 06:56 PM
08-28-2010, 11:01 PM
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02-11-2011, 10:44 PM
02-12-2011, 11:02 AM
I love ALCAR. The cognitive effect alone, is awesome. As for taste, its nasty sour, but mixed with cran-juice( I use diet, next to no carbs and next to no sugar). It eases the sourness. Anyone hear tried bulk phenibut-HAHA?
I gotta say, that I do think there is a bit of a slimming effect on it.
02-12-2011, 03:20 PM
I have a love/hate relationship with ALCAR.It is one of the most effective supplements out there,but for me,it is quite an emotional rollercoaster.
I seem to be very sensitive to it`s nootropic effects.
02-12-2011, 07:55 PM
The main thing that scares me about ALCAR is that it prevents thyroid hormone from entering into cells. Sort of making them thyroid resistent. So really your thyroid panel could look normal but the cell is not getting the hormone. I think alot of people under estimate how important thyroid function is.
02-13-2011, 09:39 AM
02-13-2011, 11:19 AM
Yeah i dont do well of the stuff either. They gave used it to treat HYPERthyroidism and works quite well for that just at 1-3 grams a day. So there is an impact even at moderate doses.
02-13-2011, 06:13 PM
i had no idea alcar had this kind of effect on thyroid hormones either. this seems worth investigating.
02-13-2011, 10:49 PM
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