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    natabolic stack or dermacrine LV, what would you all recommend. i havnt seen any dermacrine LV only logs but i wana try the LV version at some point in time, probably 2 bottles back to back, so 50 days worth. its been a long time since i ran anything hormonal. i miss the feeling of being "on" but i dont wanna run something real suppressive. if these arnt gonna give me good results, what would?
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    Dermacrine would give you decent results back to back.. But not like h-drol or above!
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    I've used dermacrine stand alone and also stacked, I feel it is not nearly as suppressive as some other compounds I.e siuperdrol, halodrol. I've used the trs for pct and recovered fine. Solid gains with the lv version and I've kept all my strength and size.
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    hateful, how long did u run it? and how much weight did u gain?
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    gamer, do u think the dermacrine LV would be a lot weaker than hdrol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    gamer, do u think the dermacrine LV would be a lot weaker than hdrol?
    yes much more mild than H-Drol.....be great to add an extra edge
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    Dermacrine LV sits somewhere between the best natural testosterone booster and a full blown DS in terms of performance and gains.

    You could easily expect a few pounds of muscle with little to no sides, it also stacks extremely well with other compounds
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    gamer, do u think the dermacrine LV would be a lot weaker than hdrol?
    It is real mild yes.. But, you will see gains far better than any natty product.
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    so is the natabolic stack not going to be as strong as dermacrine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    so is the natabolic stack not going to be as strong as dermacrine?
    I actually think Natabolic is stronger judging from personal experience.

    I've seen in your sig that you've ran Dermacrine. Why not give something else a shot and judge them for yourself? Post up the results when you're done and help everyone else make the decision!
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    Just stack em together
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    Go with Dermacrine for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizmal View Post
    Just stack em together
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    so is the natabolic stack not going to be as strong as dermacrine?
    Hmm, they are both good. Why not get both and run both at the same time and use the formadrol as PCT ..

    That would be a wicked stack!!!
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    haha true but an expensive one as well! 2 bottles of natadrol will last like 6 weeks tops? with 1 bottle of derm it will still be like 110 bucks for about a month worth of a cycle. unless it would kick the hell out of a epi cycle or such, i duno if itd be worth it
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    Well that probably depends on your goals. Cutting/recomp cycle, I bet this stack would own!

    For an all out bulk and only going for added pounds on the scale, you would probably want something stronger. But then there is the added cost of cycle supports and maybe stronger pct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    hateful, how long did u run it? and how much weight did u gain?
    I've done 25 days and 50 days, not sure which I like better, I feel the sweet spot for dermacrine is around 40 days was when my body reached its peak, but it all depends on your goals, the 25 day cycle was great, it kicks in pretty quick I felt it after about 4-5 days. I gained 4 lbs the 25 day cycle, I was on a lean bulk calories about 700 above maintenance. And the 50 day cycle I was going purely for strength with calories around 1000 over maintenance and gained 10 lbs but was also used in season my senior year in college, best part was I kept it all and continued to gain after the cycle was over, no huge drop off in strength, endurance, or size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HATEFULone View Post
    I've done 25 days and 50 days, not sure which I like better, I feel the sweet spot for dermacrine is around 40 days was when my body reached its peak, but it all depends on your goals, the 25 day cycle was great, it kicks in pretty quick I felt it after about 4-5 days. I gained 4 lbs the 25 day cycle, I was on a lean bulk calories about 700 above maintenance. And the 50 day cycle I was going purely for strength with calories around 1000 over maintenance and gained 10 lbs but was also used in season my senior year in college, best part was I kept it all and continued to gain after the cycle was over, no huge drop off in strength, endurance, or size.
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    Would the formadrol be a strong enough pct for both the 6 weeks of natadrol (6caps/day) and the dermacrine for 25 days? The more i think about it i may as well just stack them both and have great gains. Anyone say i should run the dermacrine for 50 days instead of 25 for this?

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    Natadrol for 6 weeks, and the last 25 days run dermacrine?

    That sounds like a solid plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    Would the formadrol be a strong enough pct for both the 6 weeks of natadrol (6caps/day) and the dermacrine for 25 days? The more i think about it i may as well just stack them both and have great gains. Anyone say i should run the dermacrine for 50 days instead of 25 for this?

    -Thanks!
    In my opinion, running the Dermacrine in conjunction with Natadrol would elicit a synergistic effect similar to Methyl 1-D (DHEA derivative).

    Formadrol Extreme alone will suffice for a six week Natadrol, four week Dermacrine, cycle. However, if you plan on going beyond four weeks of Dermacrine use, you may want to consider adding additional post-cycle support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoopem6 View Post
    In my opinion, running the Dermacrine in conjunction with Natadrol would elicit a synergistic effect similar to Methyl 1-D (DHEA derivative).

    Formadrol Extreme alone will suffice for a six week Natadrol, four week Dermacrine, cycle. However, if you plan on going beyond four weeks of Dermacrine use, you may want to consider adding additional post-cycle support.
    So what you're saying is he should just take M1-D?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerkanadia View Post
    So what you're saying is he should just take M1-D?
    No, I was simply making a comparison based on their primary ingredient. I think Natadrol with the addition of Dermacrine is the perfect stack. I was actually going to run this exact same combination, but decided to pick up a bottle of MMV2 instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoopem6 View Post
    No, I was simply making a comparison based on their primary ingredient. I think Natadrol with the addition of Dermacrine is the perfect stack. I was actually going to run this exact same combination, but decided to pick up a bottle of MMV2 instead.
    You're right, but he might consider taking M1-D instead, for 4-6 weeks at 5-6 caps a day. Will most likely come out cheaper with comparable results.

    I'm with you, i'm taking MMv2 (clone). Stacking it with M1-D though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerkanadia View Post
    You're right, but he might consider taking M1-D instead, for 4-6 withs at 5-6 caps a day. Will most likely come out cheaper with comparable results.

    I'm with you, i'm taking MMv2 (clone). Stacking it with M1-D though.
    Dermacrine's LV delivery system might offer a higher absorption rate than Methyl 1-D, but either would work effectively. Plus, with NP's current PP sale, Dermacrine is only $30...

    Killer, how do you like the M 1-D/MMV2 combo? How do you feel it compares to your previous Natadrol cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoopem6 View Post
    how do you like the M 1-D/MMV2 combo?

    I know this wasn't pointed towards me. But I'm just finishing up with the Trifecta stack.

    I think it's great! Little to no sides although I'm starting to shut down a bit recently. Otherwise it's awesome for recomping/cutting. I've added size and strength while losing a lot of fat.

    Squats are up 40lbs, set PRs on weighted dips weekly and most every other lift is up 15lbs in 3 weeks. Will be starting the PCT Thursday.

    I haven't done Natadrol or the natty stack. But I definitly will be a repeat customer of the trifecta. I think all the gains in size and strength will be held on to also since it's not so dramatic. Very happy camper here.


    I also ordered some dermacrine I will probably stack with the trifecta on the next run.
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    Dizmal, you are taking MMv3?

    I'm working on my third week of M1-D/MMv2 and so far i am pleased. When i ran Natadrol i was also taking MMv3.

    I think my strength gains were a little better on nata/mmv3, but i have a good feeling the M1-D will help me put on a little more weight. Also plan on running my current cycle for a total of 6 weeks(45 days), due to work issues i had to cut my nata/mmv3 cycle down to 33 days.

    I could only wish that they would make a capped version of their new mmv3. I honestly believe it is a better product, i just am not a fan of 6 sublingual tabs a day.

    Oh yeah, natadrol i was on 6-mmv3 a day, currently im on 4(600mg)-mmv2. That also could account for better strength on my natadrol cycle.


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    Natadrol + Dermacrine. Sounds sweet to me. I actually kind of want to run that now!

    I personally believe Formadrol would suffice for PCT. It's not necessarily a strong anti-estrogen, but it's VERY good at kicking up LH, thus boosting natural test production. I include it in all PCTs now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerkanadia View Post
    Dizmal, you are taking MMv3?


    I had the MMv2 I believe. That what it stated in the recommendations on the bottle anyway.

    Round white/chalky/minty pills.

    I was also dosing 6 MMv2 and 6 M1-D
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    MMv2 were caps, MMv3 are the white chalky tabs you're supposed to let dissolve under your tongue.
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    Ah, well there you go. I was always confused cause it never said which version. But stated MMv2 in the dosing recommendations.
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    i really liked dermacrine but if you want more results run either turinabol with androhard or turinabol with dermacrine the first for a recomp/cut and the 2nd would be better for bulking or muscle mass gains, great stuff man, but ive never ran methol masterdrol
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    I cant wait to open up my androhard
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    i have ran a cycle of 2 bottles of natadrol and didnt notice much so id have to say Dermacrine LV .
    I do really like ASGT thow with pps beta-a and ibcaa's.
    but if you where going to choose between one id say Dermacrine.
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    Might as well give the dermacrine lv a try since its on sale at np, I might stock up a few bottles as well, $30 is dirt cheap, anyone know if anything else is on sale? I think I saw asgt too, I wanted to stack that with my premax, hmmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    natabolic stack or dermacrine LV, what would you all recommend. i havnt seen any dermacrine LV only logs but i wana try the LV version at some point in time, probably 2 bottles back to back, so 50 days worth. its been a long time since i ran anything hormonal. i miss the feeling of being "on" but i dont wanna run something real suppressive. if these arnt gonna give me good results, what would?
    natabolic stack will give you that on feeling with minimal suppression just like you are looking for

    and it can be found for some pretty damn good prices, too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HATEFULone View Post
    Might as well give the dermacrine lv a try since its on sale at np, I might stock up a few bottles as well, $30 is dirt cheap, anyone know if anything else is on sale? I think I saw asgt too, I wanted to stack that with my premax, hmmm.
    what was the price before the sale, do u know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    what was the price before the sale, do u know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    natabolic stack or dermacrine LV, what would you all recommend. i havnt seen any dermacrine LV only logs but i wana try the LV version at some point in time, probably 2 bottles back to back, so 50 days worth. its been a long time since i ran anything hormonal. i miss the feeling of being "on" but i dont wanna run something real suppressive. if these arnt gonna give me good results, what would?
    deff derma add in formo stanozol (topical formestane) and its a sick stack thats incredibly low on sides with decent gains
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    Some pretty interesting ideas... If I had to choose just one though, id pick the Dermacrine.
  

  
 

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