i stay away from est. i ran there phera for 4 weeks with nothing, a cel rep who used to work from phera pm'd saying that he new that alot of there products were bunk from when he worked there and felt bad that he at one time rep for them, so he sent me some cel phera for free and i ran it for for weeks and put on 10 + lbs. so i just stay clear of est now
Heh, I remember that. You logged that on a particular forum that no longer exists :shhh: That being said, I suggest not overgeneralizing across a company's entire product line.
And, it works BOTH ways. On one hand, I wasted money on a lot of ALRI products that totally sucked. But their sleep aides have always been the cream of the crop. I don't care what's in them, they work.
On the flip side, when I used to rep for Axis, I liked just about every product I tried from them EXCEPT Furaz. I didn't like the old batches and never even had any inclination to try it again during the batches where people started to have unusual responses to it last year.
The same thing applies to other industries. Samsung makes top notch LCDs but their plasmas have horrific reviews. On the flip side, Panasonic is almost always ahead of the curve with plasmas while their lcds have lousy reviews.
And after all that, I know nothing about the product being discussed in this thread :run: