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    iFORCE MAXIMIZE V2 vs JACK3D USP LABS


    Are they basically the same? Have you tried both? Please share your experiences.


    I just finished one bottle of jack3d, which was my first pre workout supplement. I liked it but didn't get an increased pump. Maybe because my pump is naturally very good.


    Supposedly you have to take maximize together with hemavol.

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    I have taken both maximize and jack3d.. I like both products but I'm gonna go with mazimize. Both are similiar in pumps but i like the ingredient profile better on maximize. One scoop does me good for maximize also..
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    Never took maximize so I can't talk about that. I can say however that jack3d has been a staple in my lineup from the first few times I took it. Have had stellar results ever since.
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    I have used both and im gonna have to go with maximize! jack3d is great though..
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    Hemavol and maximize would be wicked
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerkanadia View Post
    Hemavol and maximize would be wicked
    Oh I can feel painful pumps just from reading this!
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    Id ditch the two and go with pre surge unleashed. You want to talk about pumps and pumping any thing with GPLC in it at 4 grams will give you a pump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbombsquad View Post
    Id ditch the two and go with pre surge unleashed. You want to talk about pumps and pumping any thing with GPLC in it at 4 grams will give you a pump.
    Hopefully its a decent price, anything with GPLC in it is over expensive.. IMO
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    And how much GPLC is there per scoop in the pre surge?
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    hold a flex for ~30secs after a set, youll get more pumped than anything of the suggestions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeekPoop View Post
    hold a flex for ~30secs after a set, youll get more pumped than anything of the suggestions.
    Ive done that and mostly every time I do, that muscle locks up lol..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    Ive done that and mostly every time I do, that muscle locks up lol..
    that suxzorz :P but its a free "pump" lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    I have used both and im gonna have to go with maximize! jack3d is great though..

    Same here. I like energy with Maxv2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerkanadia View Post
    Hemavol and maximize would be wicked
    It is, I've done it multiple times lol.

    OP, they are similar in terms of energy, at least for my body but the pumps come on much stronger with maximize. Really can not go wrong with either tho as I am a big fan of jacked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dexterfan View Post
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    Supposedly you have to take maximize together with hemavol.
    You definitely don't have to run them together, that could get expensive. It's pretty intense but Maximize is plenty by itself!
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    Thanks for the great reviews guys!

    One of the reasons people love maximize v2 so much is due to the great value. You get 45 full workouts from one tub, not 15.
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    Dj what's with your obsession over GPLC?

    J Int Soc Sports Nutr. 2010 May 6;7:16.
    Comparison of pre-workout nitric oxide stimulating dietary supplements on skeletal muscle oxygen saturation, blood nitrate/nitrite, lipid peroxidation, and upper body exercise performance in resistance trained men.
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    ABSTRACT: BACKGROUND: We compared Glycine Propionyl-L-Carnitine (GlycoCarn(R)) and three different pre-workout nutritional supplements on measures of skeletal muscle oxygen saturation (StO2), blood nitrate/nitrite (NOx), lactate (HLa), malondialdehyde (MDA), and exercise performance in men. METHODS: Using a randomized, double-blind, cross-over design, 19 resistance trained men performed tests of muscular power (bench press throws) and endurance (10 sets of bench press to muscular failure). A placebo, GlycoCarn(R), or one of three dietary supplements (SUPP1, SUPP2, SUPP3) was consumed prior to exercise, with one week separating conditions. Blood was collected before receiving the condition and immediately after exercise. StO2 was measured during the endurance test using Near Infrared Spectroscopy. Heart rate (HR) and rating of perceived exertion (RPE) were determined at the end of each set. RESULTS: A condition effect was noted for StO2 at the start of exercise (p = 0.02), with GlycoCarn(R) higher than SUPP2. A condition effect was also noted for StO2 at the end of exercise (p = 0.003), with SUPP1 lower than all other conditions. No statistically significant interaction, condition, or time effects were noted for NOx or MDA (p > 0.05); however, MDA decreased 13.7% with GlycoCarn(R) and increased in all other conditions. Only a time effect was noted for HLa (p < 0.0001), with values increasing from pre- to post-exercise. No effects were noted for HR, RPE, or for any exercise performance variables (p > 0.05); however, GlycoCarn(R) resulted in a statistically insignificant greater total volume load compared to the placebo (3.3%), SUPP1 (4.2%), SUPP2 (2.5%), and SUPP3 (4.6%). CONCLUSION: None of the products tested resulted in favorable changes in our chosen outcome measures, with the exception of GlycoCarn(R) in terms of higher StO2 at the start of exercise. GlycoCarn(R) resulted in a 13.7% decrease in MDA from pre- to post-exercise and yielded a non-significant but greater total volume load compared to all other conditions. These data indicate that 1) a single ingredient (GlycoCarn(R)) can provide similar practical benefit than finished products containing multiple ingredients, and 2) while we do not have data in relation to post-exercise recovery parameters, the tested products are ineffective in terms of increasing blood flow and improving acute upper body exercise performance.
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    GPLC is a decent ingredient IMO, but I've always needed way more than 4.5g to get any legit effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iForce View Post
    GPLC is a decent ingredient IMO, but I've always needed way more than 4.5g to get any legit effects.
    I agree...it doesnt blow me away though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerkanadia View Post
    Hemavol and maximize would be wicked
    Sickk stack.. i've done it multiple times! Redic pumps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    I agree...it doesnt blow me away though.
    I used it a few times, never got the insane pumps people talk about, didnt feel much of anything actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iForce View Post
    Thanks for the great reviews guys!

    One of the reasons people love maximize v2 so much is due to the great value. You get 45 full workouts from one tub, not 15.
    Isnt 1.5-2 scoops the max serving of maximize?
    I HATE how USP advertise 45 servings when you need 3 scoops for full effects. Though Jacked is great Pre workout.
    Got me some MV2 in the mail
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    The reccomended dosing for Maximize v2 is 1 scoop. Some adrenal gland whackos can handle 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by iForce View Post
    The reccomended dosing for Maximize v2 is 1 scoop. Some adrenal gland whackos can handle 2
    1 is strong, 2 is too strong..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    1 is strong, 2 is too strong..
    Then 2 it is for me brother! Im a 31/2 scoop to 4 of Jacked, or 3-4 black caps frpm APPNUT. Currently using muscle marinade and its just ok at one heaped scoop. So I will be a 2 scoop man methinks. Thats still 20 odd servings, all good
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProteinMurder View Post
    Then 2 it is for me brother! Im a 31/2 scoop to 4 of Jacked, or 3-4 black caps frpm APPNUT. Currently using muscle marinade and its just ok at one heaped scoop. So I will be a 2 scoop man methinks. Thats still 20 odd servings, all good
    Dude, try 1.5 before you try 2.. Im a 3 scoops of jack3d kinda guy..
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    Since I had no idea what was in Maximize I had to look at the label. Figured I'd post here for others unfamiliar as well:

    Maximize V2 Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: Scoop
    Servings per Container: 45


    Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
    Calories 20
    Total Fat 0 g 0%
    Total Carbohydrates 4 g
    Sugars 0 g
    Niacin 25 mg 125%
    Vitamin B12 (as Methylcobalamin) 500 mcg 8,333%
    Potassium Phosphate 25 mg **
    Sodium Phosphate 25 mg **
    Magnesium Phosphate 25 mg **
    Maximize V2 Dual Stage Ignition System: 6,840 mg **
    Cognitive Blitz Matrix:

    Tyrosine, Caffeine, 1,3-Dimethylpentylamine (Constituent of Geranium Oil), Methyl Synephrine

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    i'm currently one week strong on maximize v2. Tried sp250, 1mr, expand extreme, nox, plasmajet.. well plasmajet is slighly different. but Maximize v2 blows all out of the water. no jitters no cracked out feeling or the feeling you get when your insulin is low.. wait i forgot that im on the get up and go stack, on week in as well and can't complain. for maxv2 the focus the endurance and the PUMPS sick!!! to cool for school lol. haha.. wooooow i went to the gym about 4 hours ago and still feel great, bout to roll on the mats with some friends and end it with some live sparring.. MAXIMIZE V2 for the win!!! hahah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmanuel09 View Post
    i'm currently one week strong on maximize v2. Tried sp250, 1mr, expand extreme, nox, plasmajet.. well plasmajet is slighly different. but Maximize v2 blows all out of the water. no jitters no cracked out feeling or the feeling you get when your insulin is low.. wait i forgot that im on the get up and go stack, on week in as well and can't complain. for maxv2 the focus the endurance and the PUMPS sick!!! to cool for school lol. haha.. wooooow i went to the gym about 4 hours ago and still feel great, bout to roll on the mats with some friends and end it with some live sparring.. MAXIMIZE V2 for the win!!! hahah.
    awesome bro! glad you are liking the maximize V2
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmanuel09 View Post
    i'm currently one week strong on maximize v2. Tried sp250, 1mr, expand extreme, nox, plasmajet.. well plasmajet is slighly different. but Maximize v2 blows all out of the water. no jitters no cracked out feeling or the feeling you get when your insulin is low.. wait i forgot that im on the get up and go stack, on week in as well and can't complain. for maxv2 the focus the endurance and the PUMPS sick!!! to cool for school lol. haha.. wooooow i went to the gym about 4 hours ago and still feel great, bout to roll on the mats with some friends and end it with some live sparring.. MAXIMIZE V2 for the win!!! hahah.
    Sounds good to me! Cant wait for mine, only part I dont believe is "no crash" Why on earth do companies say this?? For any high/increase in energy there is an accompaning low. Any time you borrow from the energy bank you gotta pay it back. period. ALL stims leave you flat some time after, the price you pay for a sick workout.
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    PSU does not have 4.5g of GPLC, period. It is a decent product with a good profile though. I do seem to crash pretty hard on it though. The theanine I guess. Other folks absolutely love it though. My vote goes to Maximize V2 over PSU or Jack3d.
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    Dude, the only time I had anything that resembled a crash was when I was sleep deprived to begin with. In fact, I work out early in the AM and have had to take some melatonin when I take 2 scoops so I can fall asleep that night. Needless to say, I rarely take 2 scoops anymore. 1-1.5 is PLENTY for most and does not disrupt my sleep. Not really sure what keeps the crash from coming. I think it must be a synergy(normally hate this term but it fits) between the 1,3 and the Methyl Synephrine (not to be confused with plain ole synephrine right iForce guys?).

    Bottom line is: Everyone of my friends who tries it, buys it and loves it. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    Hopefully its a decent price, anything with GPLC in it is over expensive.. IMO
    i saw presurge unleashed at a chain store for like 35$..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccnAbolic View Post
    Dude, the only time I had anything that resembled a crash was when I was sleep deprived to begin with. In fact, I work out early in the AM and have had to take some melatonin when I take 2 scoops so I can fall asleep that night. Needless to say, I rarely take 2 scoops anymore. 1-1.5 is PLENTY for most and does not disrupt my sleep. Not really sure what keeps the crash from coming. I think it must be a synergy(normally hate this term but it fits) between the 1,3 and the Methyl Synephrine (not to be confused with plain ole synephrine right iForce guys?).

    Bottom line is: Everyone of my friends who tries it, buys it and loves it. Period.
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    Correct PSU cannot have 4.5g of gplc based upon the ~6g prop blend.


    The above poster is correct. We found when a low dose of methyl synephrine was used in conjunction with 1,3 less users reported feelings of lethargy or "crashes".
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    I used to be a jacked junky...but they changed the name, and the taste....it was still the best and i couldnt go back to caffeine based PREWO .....then i tried maximize at 2 scoops.....it blew me away....more energy then jacked, and way more of a pump..


    I HATE the taste of Maximizev2 tho....... i seem to be the only one tho......

    jacked pros..... less h2o needed
    Maximize pros..... everything else


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    Yeah Jacked just doesn't do anything for me anymore, even after months break. I know they say endlessly that they didnt change the formula, but it just aint like it used to be. Muscle Marinade is good stuff, enjoying it currently. Roll on the maximize V2, Its the stim junkies PWO of choice by the sounds!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProteinMurder View Post
    Yeah Jacked just doesn't do anything for me anymore, even after months break. I know they say endlessly that they didnt change the formula, but it just aint like it used to be. Muscle Marinade is good stuff, enjoying it currently. Roll on the maximize V2, Its the stim junkies PWO of choice by the sounds!
    yea im still diggin 1-1.5 scoops. even into my second tub i havent needed to go over that. most days its 1 scoop, on special days its 1.5
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    Quote Originally Posted by iForce Dave View Post
    yea im still diggin 1-1.5 scoops. even into my second tub i havent needed to go over that. most days its 1 scoop, on special days its 1.5
    The energy I experienced from one scoop was almost too much, haha. I've found 1/2 a scoop to be my sweet spot. Which in turn makes one tub of Maximize V2 last ~90 servings/workouts!

    Also, if anyone is interested, my signature below contains the URL to my Maximize V2 log.
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    Yea, mxv2 lasts a long time even at 1.5 scoops/workout. If you workout 4x/week, 1 scoop lasts 11.25 weeks, 1.5 scoops lasts 7.5 weeks, and 2 scoops lasts 5.6 weeks.


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