supposedly before bed but the article says before training?:bigeyes:So when is the optimal time to dose GABA?
I'm going to try it while on cycle. Do you think it will still make a difference?supposedly before bed but the article says before training?:bigeyes:
Really I don`t know man but i got some questions about this. if make me sleepy in the workout or some lethargy?I'm going to try it while on cycle. Do you think it will still make a difference?
Actually though GABA raises GH by raising dopamine levelsI always thought if GH went up prolactin went down? Maybe thats dopamine im thinkin of? Yes, i think thats it, disreguard lol. :lol:
If you look around, there are also studies showing Melatonin does it as well. I've tried dosing 6mg melatonin preworkout, its particularly nice for a heavy leg day, if you have the opportunity to nap after you are done with your workoutsupposedly before bed but the article says before training?:bigeyes:
DAMN IT 6mg:bigeyes: and the GH output?If you look around, there are also studies showing Melatonin does it as well. I've tried dosing 6mg melatonin preworkout, its particularly nice for a heavy leg day, if you have the opportunity to nap after you are done with your workout
ive done this stack and its rather hard to get up in the morning lolGABA+1-carboxy...?
:24:ive done this stack and its rather hard to get up in the morning lol
you should see the studies with doses of 10mg of melatonin,really impressive.If you look around, there are also studies showing Melatonin does it as well. I've tried dosing 6mg melatonin preworkout, its particularly nice for a heavy leg day, if you have the opportunity to nap after you are done with your workout
picamilon is some awesome stuff,straight gaba is better for this though.Interesting... what about picamilon?
Heres the big tadas of that.Anybody not want to comment on what happens to the Growth Hormone when you get an insulin spike from all the high GI carbs in your post workout shake?
Isn't the insulin in this case going to counteract the effects of the elevated GH? Anybody care to expand on this...
And also, how anabolic would that GH increase be in all honesty, does GH injections even translate into significant gains in a short period of time?
Cheers guys. Interesting article for sure though.
This is Correct!!!!!!Heres the big tadas of that.
a) You don't really need a high GI carb immediately PWO, if at all.
b) if you wanted an insulin spike, insulin is easy to inject and OTC in all states.
c) if you time a high GI carb PWO or insulin injection right (more like 40-60 min PWO) you maximize insulin after the majority of GH has been released by your body
d) GH rapidly turns into IGF-1 + 2
e) if you get timing right, you'll have high levels of insulin at the same time as IGF1 + 2 for maximal growth potential.
Overall though, I personally prefer to not have high GI shakes. I've doodled with it both ways, and also have (and this is now my standard) a small shake with 20g moderately fast carbs/40g protein mixed as whey and egg about 30 minutes PWO, then a full more or less 40/40/20 meal with moderately to heavily complex carbs 30-60 minutes later.
Oh I want to add though that I work out fasted first thing in the morning, so thats the only reason I even do the carb/protein shake as thats when studies have shown that to be valuable - after a fasted workout.
3-6 gm melatonin? Holy shiznit, I'm good with 1mg and probably even 500mcg. :ntome:I would do 3gm GABA, 3-6 gm melatonin, 5gm glutamine, and Vit C and E and ZMA before bed during off season on weekends. It was amazing. Then get up have a big breakfast, and then train two hours later. Awesome.
Indeed, I'm good with 500mcg even at 225 lbs. That dosing would likely put me in a coma3-6 gm melatonin? Holy shiznit, I'm good with 1mg and probably even 500mcg. :ntome:
no because they include a dose to help with focus and clarity.Does Controlled Labs White Flood contain enough GABA to ellicit this four fold increase in GH? If so, could just take that and not have any post work out carbs, during a cut of course.
there have been studies with regards to gh at doses of 10mg,lol.3-6 gm melatonin? Holy shiznit, I'm good with 1mg and probably even 500mcg. :ntome:
indeed and high glucose levels are the not most healthy thing all the time.Its not a stupid question, but high glucose intake actually lowers GH Production according to what I have read. I have to ask if this is post workout, or pre bedtime? I would worry more about using it pre workout, and before bed. There is usually less glucose in us before bed, which is why it makes sense to take it then. Its also when GH peaks anyway.
Great post... I'm going to try this soon.If you look around, there are also studies showing Melatonin does it as well. I've tried dosing 6mg melatonin preworkout, its particularly nice for a heavy leg day, if you have the opportunity to nap after you are done with your workout
:hmmm: seems your T levels is up my friend!I just tried two weeks of the 3 gram does preworkout. Kicked ass for stubborn fat loss. I had hella long intense workouts. I do have one question. I was just running creatine mono, gaba, and a bit of Jack3d and i had a huge acne flare up. Does an increase in GH also increase test, thus causing the acne? My diet was super clean and low fat and I havent had acne in a while. It was worse than my superdrol cycle a year ago. Any thoughts?
Really interested in your experience. I have very stubborn fat around my mid / lower stomach. How bad was yours, how long did you use the GABA and what sort of impact did it have upon the fat.I just tried two weeks of the 3 gram does preworkout. Kicked ass for stubborn fat loss. I had hella long intense workouts. I do have one question. I was just running creatine mono, gaba, and a bit of Jack3d and i had a huge acne flare up. Does an increase in GH also increase test, thus causing the acne? My diet was super clean and low fat and I havent had acne in a while. It was worse than my superdrol cycle a year ago. Any thoughts?
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