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  1. Protein Powders Harmful??


    (CBS) For many people trying to get in shape or bulk up quickly, protein shakes are part of a daily workout regime.

    Protein drinks are being advertised as a way to boost fitness, and that marketing targets everyone from body builders to teenagers.

    But, according to a new study, over-consuming some of those products could be dangerous.

    “Early Show” Consumer Correspondent Susan Koeppen takes a look at an investigation being released Monday by Consumer Reports.

    Though manufacturers and salesmen say that these products are safe, the new study says some protein drinks may cause health problems over time. The investigation found some contain things like arsenic, cadmium, and lead.

    CBS News took a hidden camera to nutrition stores in New York City asking about these supplemental drinks, but not one sales person warned about possible health risks.

    Some said taking more than recommended doses wouldn't hurt.

    But trainer/dietician Erin Palinski says, not so. "They're actually going to harm their health if they do excessive amounts," said Palinski.

    Experts say too much protein can lead to dehydration and digestive problems, increase your risk for osteoporosis, and for some people, cause kidney problems.

    And now, an investigation appearing in the July issue of Consumer Reports finds that some protein drinks could be toxic, if you take too much.

    Says CR's Urvashi Rangan, "We tested about 15 different types of protein drinks. ... And we actually looked for four different heavy metals. We looked for arsenic, cadmium, mercury, and lead."

    Test results found heavy metals present in all 15 drinks -- some more than others.

    Consumer Reports says three products were of particular concern -- because consuming three servings a day could result in exposure to arsenic, cadmium or lead that exceed proposed limits for contaminants:

    • Eas Myoplex (Arsenic, Cadmium)
    Muscle Milk-Chocolate (Cadmium, Lead)
    Muscle Milk-Vanilla Crème (Lead)

    Urvashi Rangan, Consumer Reports, said, "What we're concerned about here is the chronic low level exposure of a heavy metal. And what people should know, is that heavy metals, once they come into our bodies, once they're metabolized, they tend to stay there for a long period of time."

    The supplement industry disputes claims that protein shakes could be harmful.

    Andrew Shao, of the Council for Responsible Nutrition, says, "The results of this analysis aren't alarming. The heavy metals that were found are well below the limits FDA (Food and Drug Administration) would be concerned about, so they don't pose a health risk to consumers at all."

    But Consumer Reports says there is little regulation requiring manufacturers to prove their protein drinks are safe.

    "We think the FDA should be tracking these products better," says Rangan, "and that is not happening at this time."

    The manufacturers of those three products say independent testing shows their products are within government safety standards even if taken three times a day.

    Still, CR notes there other ways to get protein at a cheapter price, such as:

    • Half a chicken breast (27 grams of protein, 62 cents per serving)
    • Three glasses of milk (23 grams of protein, 60 cents per serving)
    • Three scrambled eggs (20 grams of protein, 46 cents per serving)

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  2. GOD ****ING DAMNIT

    Alright I don't want to sound like the tinfoil hat type, but this is a clear example of the media buying into political influence. That article clearly calls for FDA regulation of supplements, which is what they are trying to pass now. This bull**** will be read by susy soccermom who will find out little jimmy drinks muscle milk and flip a **** about how her son was contaminated.

    Everything will have its contaminants. Should better quality control be present? Sure, but as said, this is nothing above the FDA's level of exposure to raise any flags. And since when would a supplement company have to tell you that over consumption of a product is harmfull?

    Does the grocery store tell you that sugar will give you diabetes?
    Does the butcher tell you that bacon will clog your arteries?
    Does a car salesman tell you that many people die each year in cars?
    /rant
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  4. purebred
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    For those of you who want to take a look @ the chart.




    Protein Drinks: What's in them? Consumer Reports

  5. THIS IS BULL**** ....strait from McCains campaign to get rid off supplements..... The study actually used 3 times the quantity u would consume...and almost all the the metals were within limits , u can never get rid of heavy metals...go get your water tested......U get a blast of lead everytime u start ur car.... this is retarded............

    The bright side....after I get out of PA school if all this **** keeps up ull have to come to me just to get a perscription for a multivitamin...... dont believe me....look at lovaza....its fishoil....any coincidence that there were heavy metal scares in fishoil products a few months back.... hmmmmmm........

    Cash in my pocket unless ppl stop buying into the media..............Just like ephedra was so bad.....and all the prohormones.....yep there the reason wrestlers kill there wives........

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  7. All I got from this article is that in a few short years, once the metal buildup from all the shakes I drink gets large enough, I will be a human Iron Man.

    WIN

  8. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    GOD ****ING DAMNIT

    Alright I don't want to sound like the tinfoil hat type, but this is a clear example of the media buying into political influence. That article clearly calls for FDA regulation of supplements, which is what they are trying to pass now. This bull**** will be read by susy soccermom who will find out little jimmy drinks muscle milk and flip a **** about how her son was contaminated.

    Everything will have its contaminants. Should better quality control be present? Sure, but as said, this is nothing above the FDA's level of exposure to raise any flags. And since when would a supplement company have to tell you that over consumption of a product is harmfull?

    Does the grocery store tell you that sugar will give you diabetes?
    Does the butcher tell you that bacon will clog your arteries?
    Does a car salesman tell you that many people die each year in cars?
    /rant
    my friend's mom already called and asked him if "he was still taking this stuff" ... so what you are saying has already begun.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Fr0st View Post
    my friend's mom already called and asked him if "he was still taking this stuff" ... so what you are saying has already begun.
    I need to buy a gun, i hate people.

  10. ^ LOL

    I always thought that people would go out and buy guns and hole up when they take the 2nd ammendment away, but I guess it's happening because they are gunna take away our protein o.O

    on the plus side, those shakes don't even taste good, and if you go by the "if it tastes good its not good for you" rule, then we will all be Iron Mans in less than a few years $$

  11. but I still think 12-13 of lead is too high. I will avoid muscle milk.

    Companies also need to be more responsible. Those products are all said to use high quality whey protein and cost much more then bulk whey protein aren't they? They should really test their ingredients and make sure they are not using some cheap but bad protein powder.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by narraboth View Post
    but I still think 12-13 of lead is too high. I will avoid muscle milk.

    Companies also need to be more responsible. Those products are all said to use high quality whey protein and cost much more then bulk whey protein aren't they? They should really test their ingredients and make sure they are not using some cheap but bad protein powder.
    Unfortunately big business like the ones in the "study" have the luxury of not giving a ****. They make money and that's all that matters, which is why muscletech and bsn still exist...musclemilk is delish however, the banana is my favorite

  13. Guys do you realize that the FDA is backlogged 2-3 yrs in actually testing supplements? Stay Away from the listed brands and move forward or do what I did 5 dozen eggs at Costco $4.50..........can't beat it.


    Just don't eat the shells as they may have cadmium in them as well (LOL)
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  14. Whey comes from milk. So where is the metals coming from? The milk? The factory that makes the powders? How much heavy metals are in the recommended chicken breasts, milk or eggs? I noticed they did not recommend fish.

    I did see one article listing 7.0 lead in milk. I get the feeling everything has heavy metals in it and this is just the norm.

    Yep found metals in eggs too. I'm done investigating.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by wastedwhiteboy2 View Post
    Whey comes from milk. So where is the metals coming from? The milk? The factory that makes the powders? How much heavy metals are in the recommended chicken breasts, milk or eggs? I noticed they did not recommend fish.

    I did see one article listing 7.0 lead in milk. I get the feeling everything has heavy metals in it and this is just the norm.

    Yep found metals in eggs too. I'm done investigating.
    Couldn't agree more.
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  16. For your information.... ON’s Response to July 2010 Consumer Reports® Article, “Alert: Protein Drinks”


    A recently released Consumer Reports® article in their July 2010 issue titled, “Health Alert: Protein Drinks” included tests conducted on 15 different protein powders for heavy metals (arsenic, cadmium, lead and mercury) in comparison to the U.S. Pharmacopeia’s proposed limits for heavy metals in dietary supplement products. In these tests, 3 of the 15 products tested above the U.S. Pharmacopeia’s proposed limits for dietary supplements when measured at the 3 serving size, with the assumptions consumers are taking multiple servings/day.

    Two Optimum Nutrition products were evaluated in the article, both of which tested well below the proposed U.S. Pharmacopeia limits for heavy metals in dietary supplements, even at the 3 serving level. These 2 ON supplements were Platinum Hydro Whey® (Velocity Vanilla flavor) and Gold Standard 100% Whey™ (Extreme Milk Chocolate flavor). Since Optimum Nutrition’s products tested well below the proposed limits, no specific safety issues were raised about either product in the article. Consumers can be assured our products are safe and manufactured to the highest standards, which the results reflect.

    Even in light of this information, ON and its customers will likely be contacted by consumers with questions or concerns they may have following their review of the Consumer Reports® article. Included below are several factual statements that ON encourage its customers and representatives to reference as a means of clarifying questions that may be raised.

    • Optimum Nutrition products are always made to the highest standards of quality and safety, and have been for over 20 years.

    • Optimum Nutrition’s protein powders are produced in our state of the art production facility, which is inspected by the FDA.

    • Before a single machine is turned on we carefully select vendors via an approval program who supply ON with premium raw materials. All vendors must provide a Certificate of Analysis for each raw material as a continued measure of quality. These certificates are then verified through random in-house and independent laboratory testing.

    • ON’s finished products are tested by third-party laboratories to ensure their safety and stability as well as their compliance with label claims.

    • Quality Assurance professionals make routine checks on all storage, blending, and production areas and conduct final inspections on all lot codes.

    • ON has been awarded with certification by the National Sanitation Foundation (NSF International), a world leader in standards development, product certification, and risk management for public health and safety.

    • ON has consistently received a ‘Superior’ rating from the esteemed American Institute of Baking (AIB) upon the inspection agency’s annual cGMP (current good manufacturing practices) compliance audits of the company’s manufacturing facilities. This top rating denotes ON’s unsurpassed commitment to food safety.

    • By comparison, the following average amounts of the metal lead may be found naturally in food, all of which are considered safe, but significantly above the measures of 3 servings of Optimum Nutrition products in the Consumer Reports tests. The U.S. Pharmacopeia proposed limit for lead in dietary supplements was 10mcg (10mcg= 10millionths of a gram):

    Food Lead Content (mcg= 1 millionth of a gram)

    o 1 sweet potato: 7.2 mcg
    o 1 typical glass of red wine: 6.8 mcg
    o 1 peach: 3.4 mcg
    o 1 apple: 2.6 mcg
    o 3 servings of Platinum Hydrowhey: 0 mcg
    o 3 servings of 100% Whey: 1 mcg

    As the industry leader in quality nutritional products for nearly 25 years, Optimum Nutrition maintains the highest commitment to compliance with all Food & Drug Administration requirements and current Good Manufacturing Practices (“cGMPs”) for food supplements. Optimum’s customers can be confident that our products contain only the best quality ingredients and are made in the safest manner possible.
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  17. purebred
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    We're a poisoned society. There's no way out or around it.

  18. you and you can get cancer from eating top romen, you can die of skin cancer from going outside, meat can cause cancer, meat is horrible for your health...
    well all these bull sh1t claims are stupid i would be dead by now no joke i was taking protein when i was like 11, so i have like more than have my life taking protein shakes and as far as im concerned doc says im one healthy SOB...
    [sigh]
    man...i just did plyometrics so im too tired to get mad and actually give a **** but im gonna say they are full of sh1t.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    GOD ****ING DAMNIT

    Alright I don't want to sound like the tinfoil hat type, but this is a clear example of the media buying into political influence. That article clearly calls for FDA regulation of supplements, which is what they are trying to pass now. This bull**** will be read by susy soccermom who will find out little jimmy drinks muscle milk and flip a **** about how her son was contaminated.

    Everything will have its contaminants. Should better quality control be present? Sure, but as said, this is nothing above the FDA's level of exposure to raise any flags. And since when would a supplement company have to tell you that over consumption of a product is harmfull?

    Does the grocery store tell you that sugar will give you diabetes?
    Does the butcher tell you that bacon will clog your arteries?
    Does a car salesman tell you that many people die each year in cars?
    /rant
    I think this is a little different from the way you are perceiving it. This to me is less about "regulation," in the sense that McCain's bill would ban lots of supplements as it is about food safety and contamination. I for one REALLY don't like the idea of lead or cadmium in my damned protein powder, and I'm all for heavy regulation of food and agriculture production from a SAFETY and purity standpoint. I suspect that a lot of this stuff gets made in China or has ingredients that are made there and then imported. Maybe that's where the heavy metal contamination is coming from?

    I'm all for the government testing our food to make sure it's not contaminated. As for them telling me what I can and can't put in my body -- that's my decision as far as I'm concerned. But I do want them to make sure that the food or supplements I buy really do contain what the labels say, and nothing else!

  20. Quote Originally Posted by greaser View Post
    I think this is a little different from the way you are perceiving it. This to me is less about "regulation," in the sense that McCain's bill would ban lots of supplements as it is about food safety and contamination. I for one REALLY don't like the idea of lead or cadmium in my damned protein powder, and I'm all for heavy regulation of food and agriculture production from a SAFETY and purity standpoint. I suspect that a lot of this stuff gets made in China or has ingredients that are made there and then imported. Maybe that's where the heavy metal contamination is coming from?

    I'm all for the government testing our food to make sure it's not contaminated. As for them telling me what I can and can't put in my body -- that's my decision as far as I'm concerned. But I do want them to make sure that the food or supplements I buy really do contain what the labels say, and nothing else!
    But the problem is that they tested a triple dose. It is the equivalent to testing the toxicity of Vicodin when taking 3 times the recommended dose. Bit of an extreme but it plays true. As ON stated in reply, they are still below FDA guidelines.
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  21. Might just move to the UK where its legal to use steroids..

  22. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    But the problem is that they tested a triple dose. It is the equivalent to testing the toxicity of Vicodin when taking 3 times the recommended dose. Bit of an extreme but it plays true. As ON stated in reply, they are still below FDA guidelines.
    ON is the protein powder I use too, so I'm glad for that!

    Heavy metals tend to accumulate in your body, so I'm guessing that it's more of how much you consume per day. I would guess that most of us do have 3 shakes a day on our work out days -- I know I do. So if that's the most common dose, then that's why they tested it. That's my guess anyway. If they tested 3x the dose and didn't say so, then that would be problematic, but the chart did indicate that they tested 3 doses.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by greaser View Post
    ON is the protein powder I use too, so I'm glad for that!

    Heavy metals tend to accumulate in your body, so I'm guessing that it's more of how much you consume per day. I would guess that most of us do have 3 shakes a day on our work out days -- I know I do. So if that's the most common dose, then that's why they tested it. That's my guess anyway. If they tested 3x the dose and didn't say so, then that would be problematic, but the chart did indicate that they tested 3 doses.
    Don't take this as arguing, rather just discussion:

    I do 3 shakes on some days, although I really try to make my focus on whole food. But do believe people on these boards are the minority of protein users, companies, especially as large as ON, are often bought by the joe schmoe who wants to get swole for 3 months and quits. I doubt he is consuming 3 a day, and neither is the average user. Even so, at 3 doses a day, we are still under FDA limits on a per-serving basis. Regulation won't usually get stricter then the FDA.

    We also make calls in a lot of different ways. I tend to eat alot more fish then I should, particularly Tuna. I risk Mercury issues arrising, but we can't blame the Tuna manufacturer for that. No matter how clean they are/wild caught, mercury will be present. There are reasons against overconsuming everything.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    Might just move to the UK where its legal to use steroids..
    im gonna get deported ON PURPOSE. then i can use all the roids i want
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    I need to buy a gun, i hate people.
    haha, I've had those days too

    I wish people would stop pretending to give a **** about my/supplement users' health
  26. Smile


    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Don't take this as arguing, rather just discussion:

    I do 3 shakes on some days, although I really try to make my focus on whole food. But do believe people on these boards are the minority of protein users, companies, especially as large as ON, are often bought by the joe schmoe who wants to get swole for 3 months and quits. I doubt he is consuming 3 a day, and neither is the average user. Even so, at 3 doses a day, we are still under FDA limits on a per-serving basis. Regulation won't usually get stricter then the FDA.

    We also make calls in a lot of different ways. I tend to eat alot more fish then I should, particularly Tuna. I risk Mercury issues arrising, but we can't blame the Tuna manufacturer for that. No matter how clean they are/wild caught, mercury will be present. There are reasons against overconsuming everything.
    I don't take it as arguing at all.

    I don't really know how many servings the average consumer of protein powders uses, but ON is still under the limit, and I feel reassured knowing that. I never use Muscle Milk anyway, but I'm sure the people who do use it would like to know that 3 scoops a day will put them over the FDA limit for several toxic metals. Knowing this information will enable them to decide what to do -- maybe they'll switch to ON!

    I guess my overall point is that we can't make informed decisions without the requisite information. We can't really trust most corporations to disclose things unless they are required by law to do so. I like knowing what's in my food and supplements. Some people don't care and will eat McDonalds every day, but most of us on this board try to consume healthy things and would probably try to avoid toxic contaminants if possible.

    As to tuna, that's a little different because that mercury comes from industrial pollution in the oceans, not from the processing of the food. As long as you know the risk, then you can make an informed choice on how much to consume. A pregnant woman however, might make a different choice. But the point is that if the gov't didn't force them to put that warning label on the tuna, we probably wouldn't know about the mercury in the 1st place.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    im gonna get deported ON PURPOSE. then i can use all the roids i want
    Only non-US citizens can be deported... So unless you're a naturalized UK citizen, you'll just be jailed or shot.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
    Only non-US citizens can be deported... So unless you're a naturalized UK citizen, you'll just be jailed or shot.
    oh thank god i was afraid i would be deported, been shot is much better

    UK homie im from New England aint no weeks UK sh1t, im from New England.

    jk
    lol
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by votum View Post
    All I got from this article is that in a few short years, once the metal buildup from all the shakes I drink gets large enough, I will be a human Iron Man.

    WIN
    Tried to rep for u for this Votum but it wouldn't let me.
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