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    Best Pre Workout


    What are you folks using as a Pre-Workout Drink?

    VPX? Gaspari? Iforce?

    Thx in advance

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    jacked, white flood, muscle marinade
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    Jack3d is a bare bones PWO imo, but it works great and its easy to down.

    White flood taste is crap in the taste department but it works well.

    ASGT by LG is very solid as well.
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    Depends on the feeling you like during the workout. My lists are what I've had experience with, and how I felt. It, of course, doesn't mean you will feel this way
    when taking them.

    Jittery on crack feeling: MHP Dark Rage, USP Labs Jack3d, BSN Endorush, Spike Energy, or Americeutical Nutritionals Super N.O.X. (even though it does have a ph in it).

    Nice concentration feel, high alertness: VPX Redline or N.O. Shotgun, GAT aka German American Technologies Jet Fuse (gotta love the Germans lol), or some caffeine pills with a "oats and protein" shake.

    Ones that I don't notice, but give a good kick in the pants vs. nothing: Universal Nutrition Animal Pump, Monster, Rockstar, or any other bogus sugar filled, insulin spiking drink out there.

    Well, that's my take. I've yet to try, and are on my list to try: White Flood, Glycergrow, N.O. Xplode (even though that's the main part of super nox, I'd like to try it alone), Xtend, and some fat burners as those can be fun
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    I like superpump 250 and white flood. Switching to bulk tho.
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    Thx much guys. I used to love Redline yrs ago (used to do half a bottle not full) but seems over the years it has been less potent. (I'm very sensitive to caffeine no less, I try to keep it that way)

    Looking for a smooth, mental alert energy type.......wouldn't mind some caffeine, maybe some Creatine/NO2.....

    Keep em coming
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    Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post
    Thx much guys. I used to love Redline yrs ago (used to do half a bottle not full) but seems over the years it has been less potent. (I'm very sensitive to caffeine no less, I try to keep it that way)

    Looking for a smooth, mental alert energy type.......wouldn't mind some caffeine, maybe some Creatine/NO2.....

    Keep em coming
    years ago the redline came in a metal can, it was much,much more potent than the plastic cans it comes in now-they changed the formula. be wary of anything 'new and improved'. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post
    Thx much guys. I used to love Redline yrs ago (used to do half a bottle not full) but seems over the years it has been less potent. (I'm very sensitive to caffeine no less, I try to keep it that way)

    Looking for a smooth, mental alert energy type.......wouldn't mind some caffeine, maybe some Creatine/NO2.....

    Keep em coming

    IMO, try caffeine pills with Lucidrol

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    Leaning between Gaspari Superpump and VPX....trying to get samples of both before investing...

    I do like the ingredient profile of the shotgun as it has Protein as well...
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    GPLC is the best, added stims are a benefit, im very very interested in trying maximizev2 and hemavol or primordials GPLC..... thatd be sick, the enrgy form maximize v2 is great!!!!!
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    +1 for PreMax Has a good amount of GPLC and this:


    Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2009 Nov 23. [Epub ahead of print]
    Ellagitannin Consumption Improves Strength Recovery 2-3 Days after Eccentric Exercise.

    PURPOSE:: Dietary supplementation with polyphenols, particularly ellagitannins, may attenuate the muscular damage experienced after eccentric exercise producing delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS). The purpose of this study was to determine if ellagitannin supplementation from Wonderful variety pomegranate extract (POMx) improved recovery of skeletal muscle strength following eccentric exercise. METHODS:: Recreationally active males were randomized into a crossover design with either pomegranate extract (POMx) or placebo (PLA), each given over a period of nine days. To produce DOMS, subjects performed 2 sets of 20 maximal eccentric elbow flexion exercises with one arm. Maximal isometric elbow flexion strength and muscle soreness as well as serum measures of creatine kinase, myoglobin, interleukin-6, and c-reactive protein were made at baseline and 2, 24, 48, 72, and 96 h post-exercise. RESULTS:: With both treatments, strength was similarly reduced 2 h after exercise (i.e.; 72% of baseline) and recovery of strength was incomplete after 96 h (i.e.; 91% of baseline). However, strength was significantly higher in POMx compared to PLA at 48 h (85.4 +/- 2.5% and 78.3 +/- 2.6%; p= 0.01) and 72 h (88.9 +/- 2.0% and 84.0 +/- 2.0%; p= 0.009) post-exercise. Serum markers of inflammation and muscle damage did not provide insight regarding possible mechanisms. CONCLUSION:: Supplementation with ellagitannins from pomegranate extract significantly improves recovery of isometric strength 2-3 days following damaging eccentric exercise.

    PMID: 19952825
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinc View Post
    +1 for PreMax Has a good amount of GPLC...
    Not just a "good amount", but has the same amount of GPLC (4.5gr per serving) proven to be effective in successful clinicals. PreMax is certainly one of the best non-stim pre-workout supplements around.
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    Thank you for the Jack3d support, guys!
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    jack3d or my personal favorate. pre-max by primordial performance
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Thank you for the Jack3d support, guys!
    I still need to give Jack3d a try.

    Looks like its pubmed approved too!
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19033611
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    Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post
    What are you folks using as a Pre-Workout Drink?

    VPX? Gaspari? Iforce?

    Thx in advance
    I like theses:
    N2KTS
    ASGT
    GLYCOCARN-GPLC from pp
    1,3-dimethylamylamine
    --------------------------------
    the GPLC :
    * Proven to enhance blood flow to muscles
    * Decreases lactic acid for improved performance
    * Clean crash free energy
    * Increases peak power
    * Safe for athletes and bodybuilders
    and mor einfo on pp's site.

    and the 1,3-dimethylamylamine:
    1,3-dimethylamylamine is a derivative of geranium oil which resembles the body's own chemical messenger, epinephrine (adrenaline). Similar to adrenaline, 1,3-dimethylamylamine exihibits a powerful CNS stimulanting ability, for increased energy, mental clarity, and physical performance. 1,3-dimethylamylamine works through a similar pathway as ephedrine, causing an increase in cAMP (the chemical messenger that triggers fat release and provides potent appetite suppression and thermogenic action).

    An effective dose of geranamine is about 25 mg (miligrams) taken 1-3 times a day.
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    I would rec ASGT with 20mg 1,3-dimethylamylamine and one serving of GLYCOCARN for the BEST preworkout mix.
    taken about 40min before workout.
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    White flood for awesome focus and happy energy: rpm for some smooth energy and good aggression, great for busting PR's; decaf ragNOrok for non-stim; clout for overall the most complete, effective strength/endurance/recovery aid.

    White Flood most certainly does not taste bad, the new flavor is really tasty! The fruit punch is on sale for $13 right now, try it and see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinc View Post
    I still need to give Jack3d a try.

    Looks like its pubmed approved too!
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19033611
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    Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    White flood for awesome focus and happy energy: rpm for some smooth energy and good aggression, great for busting PR's; decaf ragNOrok for non-stim; clout for overall the most complete, effective strength/endurance/recovery aid.

    White Flood most certainly does not taste bad, the new flavor is really tasty! The fruit punch is on sale for $13 right now, try it and see.

    You and I couldn't further disagree about the taste of their white raspberry flavor(I'm assuming white flood in general). You're right about the focus and happy energy, makes it worth it.
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    I've never tried the white raspberry. I have used the original lemon, and the new fruit punch, and the new one is great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    I've never tried the white raspberry. I have used the original lemon, and the new fruit punch, and the new one is great!
    i hav esamples of all three and cant wait to try them
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    Oh, this is my first white flood tub, i thought raspberry was the new flavor.
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    Nano vapor by the best Supp company out there muscletech baby!!!!! LOL jk. I personally like jack3d or white flood
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    My 2 cents..

    If you're going to go with a non-bulk (see: homemade) pre-wo mix..

    Then the best two are Ultima and PreSurge Unleashed. That is all.
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    Although a rep, Maximize V.2 has blown me away. The original was okay, but nothing super special. V.2 has given me great consistent workouts with clear focus.

    Cryoshock in addition is a very solid, awesome pre-workout I would no problem running every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    Although a rep, Maximize V.2 has blown me away. The original was okay, but nothing super special. V.2 has given me great consistent workouts with clear focus.

    Cryoshock in addition is a very solid, awesome pre-workout I would no problem running every day.
    hey man honest, if you werent a rep would you buy it?
    the ingredients do take my interest but im scared of regretting of switching from jacked
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    hey man honest, if you werent a rep would you buy it?
    the ingredients do take my interest but im scared of regretting of switching from jacked
    I did just that. You won't regret it at all. In fact you might like it tremendously!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    I did just that. You won't regret it at all. In fact you might like it tremendously!!
    really so its up there with jacked?
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    my currents in rotation-

    JP8- 50 lemon/50 grape
    Chaos with GPLC
    NO Ignite
    N2KTS

    I have GPLC and LCLT I sometimes add in.

    I have ASGT and RSS Nitrous 02 locked and loaded as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    my currents in rotation-

    JP8- 50 lemon/50 grape
    Chaos with GPLC
    NO Ignite
    N2KTS

    I have GPLC and LCLT I sometimes add in.

    I have ASGT and RSS Nitrous 02 locked and loaded as well.
    really wanna try the ASGT
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    really so its up there with jacked?
    Definitely...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasTitan View Post
    Noobs - Jack3d

    Advanced - Premax.
    Elite - Both mixed together?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasTitan View Post
    Noobs - Jack3d

    Advanced - Premax.
    They are really on different levels. I wouldnt say jacked is for noobs. Mainly just a cheaper alternative for people who cant afford something like Premax. Premax is a really elite Preworkou. it has alot to offer its just more money then some would like to spend. I can give some props to Jacked.
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