Anarchy Stack minus CLA

jcp2

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Hey guys i don't come over here much, i am a mod at steroidology, not sure if any of you guys visit. I am probably coming off gear for a while, and was wondering what your experiences have been with the anarchy stack minus the cla. I have heard numerous people talk about how good it is, and i have heard numerous people say it is not cost efficient. I am probably going to start with around 1gram of r-ala a day, 4.5grams of ALCAR and 1200-1800mg of green tea. Probably going to get it all from instynct. I have a hard time justifying the cost of the CLA, but may try it a few months after using without to see how much of a difference it makes. Like i said i would just like to see some results of the stach without the cla.
 
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I havent used cla, and I think it works just fine :)
 

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screw the CLA - after 4 months - i noticed nothing - i just use fish oil now. 4.5G of ALCAR is a bit high tho.
 

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screw the CLA - after 4 months - i noticed nothing - i just use fish oil now. 4.5G of ALCAR is a bit high tho.
That is a bit high, would 3g be a better starting point. What are the disadvantages of running the alcar that high, i actually read all 19 pages of that anarchy stack thread last night, and although i didn't see to many running it that high, the guys using 6g seemed to really like it.
 
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It seems to work alright if you get really high quality, concentrated GT and keep the doses of ALA and biotin consistent. Start with about 1-2 grams of ALCAR. I don't bother with the CLA either.
 
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That is a bit high, would 3g be a better starting point. What are the disadvantages of running the alcar that high, i actually read all 19 pages of that anarchy stack thread last night, and although i didn't see to many running it that high, the guys using 6g seemed to really like it.

I think the point is that you're probably just wasting cash..ie cost/benefit ratio. Some people get an "unquenchable thirst" as a side of too much alcar but overall I don't think there is any danger in mega dosing it...that we know of :rolleyes:
 

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I agree that cost/benefit doesn't always work out as far as tangible gains and/or losses are concerned. If one is of the opinion that it's benefits for "overall health" exceed the cost.....well fine but I stopped paying for it, I'm not in the right situation right now (a little older and cash burning a hole in my pocket, maybe) :D
 

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I don't think the cost to benefit ratio warrants using CLA in the stack. You should do fine on just the ALCAR, GT, R-ALA and Biotin.
 

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Is there something that can be used in place of CLA that will help the stack? I've read about some people either using fish oil or flax... but in what quantities I don't know...

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LB
 

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Can someone please provide a link to the anarchy stack. I'm very interested to learn more about this, but I did a search and can't find the thread. Thanks.
 

Jcc

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You didn't notice the absolutely huge thread that is stuck a few posts above this one? :D
 

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I think without the CLA the cost to benefit ratio is fine. Without the CLA the stack only costs 40 dollars a month. That gets me 1600mg green tea 1800mg ala 4mg biotin and 3 grams alcar a day. When I was using R-ala it was a little more expensive and gave me 600mg r-ala a day.
 

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Lol, no i didn't. I saw the Acetyl L-Carnitine part and just skipped right over it. Sorry and thank you.
 

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