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    Quote Originally Posted by pezdog1 View Post
    Would phyot-test and TCF-1 be a good stack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    The two would compliment each other quite well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    The two would compliment each other quite well.
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    Guys,take it from me, this product kicks ass... felt better in the gym and pretty much all day from this stuff... boosts strength, aggression and sex drive FAST
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    Quote Originally Posted by sublimejeh View Post
    Guys,take it from me, this product kicks ass... felt better in the gym and pretty much all day from this stuff... boosts strength, aggression and sex drive FAST
    couldnt agree more. i am on day 7 and it rocks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imeniaan View Post
    yes it would surely help;

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    Nice link.

    It sounds like coconut oil was the more powerful option. Ive been taking coconut oil for years. It would be a great stack with TCF-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    Nice link.

    It sounds like coconut oil was the more powerful option. Ive been taking coconut oil for years. It would be a great stack with TCF-1.

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    Nice to know, thanks.
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    my bro just got his shipment. hes a fews day on and is loving tcf-1
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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty33 View Post
    my bro just got his shipment. hes a fews day on and is loving tcf-1


    wat kind of effects is he experiencing? did you notice a boost in libido?
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    [QUOTE=Imeniaan;2435854]wat kind of effects is he experiencing? did you notice a boost in libido?[/QUOTE0]

    muscle hardness and morning wood.
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    [quote=qwerty33;2436281]
    Quote Originally Posted by Imeniaan View Post
    wat kind of effects is he experiencing? did you notice a boost in libido?[/QUOTE0]

    muscle hardness and morning wood.
    Both good enough effects to warrant getting some TCF-1 now!!
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    Both good enough effects to warrant getting some TCF-1 now!!
    agreed wish it was still 2 for 1
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    agreed wish it was still 2 for 1
    I am still hoping to see a bunch of logs from when it was.
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    [quote=HereToStudy;2438628]
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    I am still hoping to see a bunch of logs from when it was.
    x2 i know i got in on some im sure others did aswell.
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    any chance of another big sale?
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    looking forward to a sale
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    Quote Originally Posted by AM360 View Post
    looking forward to a sale
    How about if we just double the amount that comes in each bottle? So you get twice as much for the same price....


    ...oh ya, we just did that.

    TCF-1, 24 servings, $29.95.
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    hell yes bra



    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo15 View Post
    How about if we just double the amount that comes in each bottle? So you get twice as much for the same price....


    ...oh ya, we just did that.

    TCF-1, 24 servings, $29.95.
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    only two less servings then test force. That just made the deal a whole lot sweeter Sorry testforce I am glad i saw this cuz i was close to getting the testforce! I heard TCF-1 tastes great and it seems like it would be easier to dose as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    only two less servings then test force. That just made the deal a whole lot sweeter Sorry testforce I am glad i saw this cuz i was close to getting the testforce! I heard TCF-1 tastes great and it seems like it would be easier to dose as well.
    honestly i had test force qued up to order. the price per servings was just too good. now call i can say is PP.com is the only site i need these days for all my supps. that and proteinfactory

    still rec 12 on 12 off? even with 24 servings or has that changed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo15 View Post
    How about if we just double the amount that comes in each bottle? So you get twice as much for the same price....


    ...oh ya, we just did that.

    TCF-1, 24 servings, $29.95.
    Jesus, PP just keeps coming out with pure displays of awesomeness!!

    It's like BOGO, but only with no sale..lol
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    makes sense tho in terms of market competition
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo15 View Post
    How about if we just double the amount that comes in each bottle? So you get twice as much for the same price....


    ...oh ya, we just did that.

    TCF-1, 24 servings, $29.95.
    Awesome! A very strategic move, indeed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo15 View Post
    How about if we just double the amount that comes in each bottle? So you get twice as much for the same price....


    ...oh ya, we just did that.

    TCF-1, 24 servings, $29.95.
    ...Another awesome move by Primordial, thanks Jimbo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo15 View Post
    How about if we just double the amount that comes in each bottle? So you get twice as much for the same price....


    ...oh ya, we just did that.

    TCF-1, 24 servings, $29.95.
    so why were you overpricing it, in the first place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imeniaan View Post
    so why were you overpricing it, in the first place?
    In most cases when a dramatic volume or price difference occurs in a new product, it is most likely due to optimization in the product creation and/or source. I am sure primordial was able to strike a deal with thier supplier or change suppliers all together.

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    I am sure PP will still recommend 12 on 12 off since that is what the study did and there are no studies beyond that. Can you dose it longer? Sure! but is there really any evidence as to what it will do after 12 days? No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    I am sure PP will still recommend 12 on 12 off since that is what the study did and there are no studies beyond that. Can you dose it longer? Sure! but is there really any evidence as to what it will do after 12 days? No.
    I would say this exactly. I plan on running the TCF-1 as part of a PCT for sd-lv later this year. Figure between Sd-LV, Liver juice, cycleassist, Clomid, Sustain Alpha, Creapure, and now TCF-1, I am in for a mass building adventure. I am very excited to see the TCF-1 play into it.

    The reason why I am sticking to the 12day on/off is as fightback mentioned the study doesnt go beyond 12 days, and I am confident staying in the "known" range will be beneficial. Some have done more days, but Id rather stick to the plan, especially since TCF-1 contains the exact form the DAA used in the study, good stuff..
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    In most cases when a dramatic volume or price difference occurs in a new product, it is most likely due to optimization in the product creation and/or source. I am sure primordial was able to strike a deal with thier supplier or change suppliers all together.

    No need for a tinfoil hat.
    bull$hit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imeniaan View Post
    bull$hit
    All in all I can't claim to know why PP choose the prices as they did. However, I wouldn't necessarily go as far to ask why would one over price something, at least not in this kind of case. I mean as a consumer of course we want to best deal on a product as we can get. That's our job. PP is a company and as such their job is to give us what we want... while making a profit too. I imagine as a company who is essentially the first to market such a product (a side from bulk powder) that finding the best price to market it at may not be the easiest thing. The previous price I agree was a little pricey, but wouldn't have called it highway robbery. The new price I think is pretty outstanding. Following the thought of consumerism and marketing there could be even more reasons than what I've talked about so far or a little of several. PP recently had a BOGO sale on TCF-1 and perhaps they realized that with the increase of sales per unit still left a good margin for profit at the decreased price. Perhaps there is an aspect of supply and demand with other companies getting in the DAA market, or perhaps it has been a marketing strategy from the beginning: New product.. what is it?, Why so pricey?.. Got your interest.. Oh, Sale!.. Tried the product, liked it.. more interest generated... Quantity/amount adjusted to finish reeling folks in after we bit. Like I said, who knows, but PP does put out top quality products and are reliable. They've done right by me in my book.

    Ok, that ended up being a bit longer than I thought..lol Sorry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    In most cases when a dramatic volume or price difference occurs in a new product, it is most likely due to optimization in the product creation and/or source. I am sure primordial was able to strike a deal with thier supplier or change suppliers all together.

    No need for a tinfoil hat.
    Or they realized their sales would fall drastically with the release of TestForce.
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    Wow i never really expected this kind of a reaction...

    There is a reason that i use and recommend (literally to everyone i know) primordial performance. Their products are consistently of the hightest quality available, even going as far as using patented technologies that they must pay a premium for, all while delivering the lowest available price.


    Take for example creapure, a creatine that they must import and pay a premium for to receive from a highly regarded lab in germany that certifies a 99.5 percent purity of creatine monohydrate. I was able to pick up 1000g or 200 servings for 17. 17 dollars for the purest version, when some creatine powders exceed that with no guarantee of purity.

    For questions i am always able to visit primordialperformance.com and instantly receive an answer. I visit thier forums which their loyal fans have turned into quite the community.

    It is for these reasons that it bothers me to see them treated in this thread as if they are anything but top notch. There is a reason why primordial is mebtioned all over these boards and it is not because they rip people off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garyboy View Post
    Or they realized their sales would fall drastically with the release of TestForce.
    or they just realized there was competition? Which is very common when selling consumer goods?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imeniaan View Post
    so why were you overpricing it, in the first place?
    We were actually able to drastically cut our cost with our supplier by purchasing larger quantities. We then streamlined production and cut production time by a third, decreasing labor costs.

    Plenty of people were purchasing the product at the full price, but we decided to pass the savings on to our loyal customers. I'm sorry if this makes you feel that we were trying to screw you from the beginning, apparently lowering prices doesn't make everyone happy.

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    bull$hit

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    some people dont understand the concept of economies of scale
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    some people dont understand the concept of economies of scale
    Indeed. Economics 101.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo15 View Post
    We were actually able to drastically cut our cost with our supplier by purchasing larger quantities. We then streamlined production and cut production time by a third, decreasing labor costs.

    Plenty of people were purchasing the product at the full price, but we decided to pass the savings on to our loyal customers. I'm sorry if this make you feel that we were trying to screw you from the beginning, apparently lowering prices doesn't make everyone happy.
    Good post!
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    I believe its called free enterprise, and if anyone wants to pay the old price I will buy the new 24 serving bottles of tcf-1 and sell it for double the price, that way you know you are getting the good stuff.
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    lol its economics 101 boys
  

  
 

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