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Has anybody have any experience with Primordial Performance new Product AndroHard?

Thinking about giving it a shot
 
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Has anybody have any experience with Primordial Performance new Product AndroHard?

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It's still fairly new, so there isn't much in terms of specific feedback. If you have any questions about our AndroHard I'd be glad to help answer them for you. :)


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PP is good people, I'm sure its a quality product. As for results, I'm also interested to hear how it is so let me know if you try it PH55
 
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it is same active that was in the original mmv2, only it is dosed higher and should be much more effective with the lv delivery system.

i was very dissapointed when the formula of mmv2 was changed i had great results with it. the pp androhard should be even better-the lv delivery worked damned well with formestane so imo it should enhance the effectiveness of androhard too.

this looks like a sure thing!
 

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Would you recommend running this with an AI (low dose?) and for how long could you run a cycle of this? (And what dosage to be really effective?)

Also....what would PCT look like?
 
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Would you recommend running this with an AI (low dose?) and for how long could you run a cycle of this? (And what dosage to be really effective?)

Also....what would PCT look like?
my favorite ai is formestane, but it might counter the effects of androhard. androhard is dht based and form is know to reduce dht. besides with androhard being dht based you won't have any need for a on cycle ai.

as for dosing-follow instructions-it aint that complicated.

otc pct should be more than adequate.
 

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And this is the same as MMV2 correct? I know how people were taking 6 caps of mmv2. I was just wondering if the Androhard would have to be increased for the same effect as with the MMV2.

What would be a safe cycle length for this? 6-8 weeks?
 
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And this is the same as MMV2 correct? I know how people were taking 6 caps of mmv2. I was just wondering if the Androhard would have to be increased for the same effect as with the MMV2.

What would be a safe cycle length for this? 6-8 weeks?
read my last post-it is dosed higher and should be more effective!!! just follow directions.

i would never go past 6 weeks on any ph, but that's just me.
 
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should be pretty good to use in a stack for cutting or to keep gains relatively lean while bulking, Androhard looks good!
 
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this looks promising. i'm thinking about running it as a standalone... can we even talk about this here?:thinking:
 

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i plan on doing a 5 week cycle of it stacked with havoc in 2-3 months... looks good, the whole "helps prevent gyno and possibly reduces" has me sold
 
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my favorite ai is formestane, but it might counter the effects of androhard. androhard is dht based and form is know to reduce dht. besides with androhard being dht based you won't have any need for a on cycle ai.

as for dosing-follow instructions-it aint that complicated.

otc pct should be more than adequate.
Formestane reduces DHT... Does anyone know the mechanism for this?
 
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Formestane reduces DHT... Does anyone know the mechanism for this?
i can't post links-google formestane, there is a ton of good info. unfortunately my bloods don't test for dht, so i can't say it from a blood test to back it up-but the info is there.
 

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I know this is a stupid question but are there any natural supps that increase DHT?
 

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Can anyone suggest a Nutraplanet Testosterone stack?

Divanex, HGW, Icariin, Fenugreek, I3C, T-Rez, etc...?
 
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I know this is a stupid question but are there any natural supps that increase DHT?
look in the article section-i think i remember an article about creatine raising dht.
 
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Can anyone suggest a Nutraplanet Testosterone stack?

Divanex, HGW, Icariin, Fenugreek, I3C, T-Rez, etc...?
Sustain Alpha and Phyto-Testosterone Caps from Primordial Performance. TNA from Usp labs, hopefully they will make this available again.
 

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Has anybody have any experience with Primordial Performance new Product AndroHard?

Thinking about giving it a shot
Plan for amazing pumps and aggression for more focused and intense workouts. I have been on it since Friday and it feels similar to dbol or tren. Additionally libido and sex drive have increased. This is a brilliant product that will being hardness and dry gains with out wiping out estrogen and creating libido problems that are found with tren, superdrol, pheraplex, deca, etc,...also anything that is weak androgenically and opposes DHT by taking up the receptor site for development of it. This will forever change the way cycles are done and help us avoid the side effects that go unforeseen before starting any cycle.
 
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Plan for amazing pumps and aggression for more focused and intense workouts. I have been on it since Friday and it feels similar to dbol or tren. Additionally libido and sex drive have increased. This is a brilliant product that will being hardness and dry gains with out wiping out estrogen and creating libido problems that are found with tren, superdrol, pheraplex, deca, etc,...also anything that is weak androgenically and opposes DHT by taking up the receptor site for development of it. This will forever change the way cycles are done and help us avoid the side effects that go unforeseen before starting any cycle.
So what about stacking dht with formestane?? Formestane lowers dht; would they work in synergy or against eachother?
 
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as a stand alone, how long would you guys run this? one bottle would last 25 days at recommended dosing.. I was thinking 4 weeks which unfortunately would bump me up to 2 bottles...
 
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i plan on doing a 5 week cycle of it stacked with havoc in 2-3 months... looks good, the whole "helps prevent gyno and possibly reduces" has me sold
agreed this is a huge selling point for me as well. i have only head good things about it altho my friends are less than a week into their cycle
 

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Sustain Alpha and Phyto-Testosterone Caps from Primordial Performance. TNA from Usp labs, hopefully they will make this available again.
This would be more effective than a combo of Divanex, HGW, Icarriin, etc.?
 

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Would stacking Androhard and PP's Turinabol LV be a good stack?
 
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bumb for more reactions from anyone using PP's AndroHard
 

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AndroHard

So what about stacking dht with formestane?? Formestane lowers dht; would they work in synergy or against eachother?
I understand that Formestane and AndroHard would work against each other. I would choose AndroHard since it provides the best of both worlds with strength, aggression, increased libido and keeps estrogen at safe levels.
 

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AndroHard and Turinabol LV

Would stacking Androhard and PP's Turinabol LV be a good stack?
I am starting Turinabol LV May 1st with AndroHard. This should be a great stack since it should be a great recomp with dry lean quality gains. Normally after 4 weeks Turinabol results plateau. The addition of AH should push results all the way to 6 weeks. Plus no loss of libido or dramatic shutdown. This will be the best cycle going that you can legally get your hands on. I hope to put on 8-10 lbs quality gains.
 

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dragon, what support supps are you going to be taking and what is your PCT going to be? diet also.....

the reason I ask is that I'm looking to run the same cycle in a couple months.
 
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I understand that Formestane and AndroHard would work against each other. I would choose AndroHard since it provides the best of both worlds with strength, aggression, increased libido and keeps estrogen at safe levels.
formestane is a strange bird. it reduces dht while at the same time increases strength and aggression. it might be interesting to run formestane as part of pct for a androhard cycle.
 

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Very new product but PP dont make bull**** products so im sure we will only here great things very soon! :)

it sounds tempting to me right now also :p
throw in soem sustain alpha and some creapure,t-911 (yohimbie) and beta-A and would seem to be the makings of a nice run a nice run. :)
 
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Normally after 4 weeks Turinabol results plateau. The addition of AH should push results all the way to 6 weeks.
I was under the impression that Turinabol really doesn't kick in until ~week 4, that being the purpose of running it 6 weeks.
 

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I'm really interested to hear some detailed feedback. Anyone know where the early androhard testers posted their results? I'd like to know how shutdown the 3 people quoted in the write-up felt when they ceased the supp. That's the only thing holding me back right now.
 
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I know the most common DHT sides are shedding and some shutdown. What else would common with this?
 
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I was under the impression that Turinabol really doesn't kick in until ~week 4, that being the purpose of running it 6 weeks.
The majority of feedback we've had with our product has most users seeing results after a few weeks in general; which is damn impressive.

I'm really interested to hear some detailed feedback. Anyone know where the early androhard testers posted their results? I'd like to know how shutdown the 3 people quoted in the write-up felt when they ceased the supp. That's the only thing holding me back right now.
I will have a dedicated thread put together with feedback as it starts to roll in. Look for it in our sub-section here on AM. Shutdown is going to be dependent upon the dose utilized and the duration taken. I would not anticipate any significant shutdown in using the product for 4-6 weeks.

I know the most common DHT sides are shedding and some shutdown. What else would common with this?
It's possible you'll have oily skin, increased aggression, and some noted strength gains. The side effects can/will be dependent upon the user, as well as the dose and duration that it's taken.


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"I would not anticipate any significant shutdown in using the product for 4-6 weeks."

Count me in for sure.
 
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"I would not anticipate any significant shutdown in using the product for 4-6 weeks."

Count me in for sure.
I know, I'm liking that quote a lot too...
Yes, but the overall significance can vary with some people due to factors (e.g., dosage, duration taken, stacking with another compound, underlying medical condition, etc). I would still think this to be fairly mild in most people in that regard. Our TRS is a good pct option for AndroHard.
 

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How long could you really run this for? Would 8 weeks be pushing it?
 
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does anyone think stacking natadrol or 11 sterone with androhard would be a good idea?
 

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bump for any user feedback on androhard ..
 
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That's what I was thinking :006: would TRS be enough PCT for the stack of 11sterone and androhard?
I would think so. With the new Testosterone Conversion Factor-1 out, you could include this and be even more sure of recovery.
 
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thanks. this will be my first run so I'm looking for any advice I can get. by the way I'm doing about a 25 day run. it should be pretty mild, which is good for me. Just wondering what I can expect by adding something like the 11sterone into the mix as far as sides, shutdown, and increased gains from using the two together.
 
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bumb b/c i'm trying to place an order tomorrow morning from NP so i don't run out of whey :redeemerwhore:
 

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this looks promising. i'm thinking about running it as a standalone... can we even talk about this here?:thinking:
If i were you i would run it with DERMACRINE, so you will not feel like crap and tired all the time...
 
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or test cyp....
Yes if your local laws allow such things, or if you have a prescription. And possibly if breaking the law is your cup of tea if that is so i would recommend Prop or Eth esters.
 
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Yes if your local laws allow such things, or if you have a prescription. And possibly if breaking the law is your cup of tea if that is so i would recommend Prop or Eth esters.
i am as legal as obama's birth certificate.... well possibly a little more than that, lol.
 

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