New AndroHard ?

[WIULifter]

does anyone think stacking natadrol or 11 sterone with androhard would be a good idea?

11-sterone would be sweet......good way to get nice and ripped.

[freefall365]

11-sterone would be sweet......good way to get nice and ripped.

That's what I was thinking would TRS be enough PCT for the stack of 11sterone and androhard?

[rulk22]

That's what I was thinking would TRS be enough PCT for the stack of 11sterone and androhard?

I would think so. With the new Testosterone Conversion Factor-1 out, you could include this and be even more sure of recovery.

[freefall365]

thanks. this will be my first run so I'm looking for any advice I can get. by the way I'm doing about a 25 day run. it should be pretty mild, which is good for me. Just wondering what I can expect by adding something like the 11sterone into the mix as far as sides, shutdown, and increased gains from using the two together.

[freefall365]

bumb b/c i'm trying to place an order tomorrow morning from NP so i don't run out of whey

[nattydisaster]

Androhard is especially useful with Alpha-T2: The Best Lean Muscle Stack!

[LiveNDie]

this looks promising. i'm thinking about running it as a standalone... can we even talk about this here?

If i were you i would run it with DERMACRINE, so you will not feel like crap and tired all the time...

[thebigt]

If i were you i would run it with DERMACRINE, so you will not feel like crap and tired all the time...

or test cyp....

[LiveNDie]

or test cyp....

Yes if your local laws allow such things, or if you have a prescription. And possibly if breaking the law is your cup of tea if that is so i would recommend Prop or Eth esters.

[thebigt]

Yes if your local laws allow such things, or if you have a prescription. And possibly if breaking the law is your cup of tea if that is so i would recommend Prop or Eth esters.

i am as legal as obama's birth certificate.... well possibly a little more than that, lol.

[freefall365]

If i were you i would run it with DERMACRINE, so you will not feel like crap and tired all the time...

Really? is this a side of AH? I thought it wasn't supposed to make u lethargic or anything?

[LiveNDie]

Anything that suppresses test will make you lethargic.. if im wrong someone please correct me.

i am as legal as obama's birth certificate.... well possibly a little more than that, lol.

lol

[freefall365]

Anything that suppresses test will make you lethargic.. if im wrong someone please correct me.

You definitely are using sound logic here and I was wondering the same thing, but in the write up it says otherwise:

"Since androsterone is a 100% natural steroid, it also has an excellent safety profile, even at high doses (6-15) –

Zero conversion to estrogen
Non-methylated & Non-toxic to the liver
No negative effect on cholesterol levels
No lethargy or nausea"


hmmm... I really don't want to feel like crap for a month +...

They do saw, however, that this stuff isn't very suppressive at all..

[LiveNDie]

You definitely are using sound logic here and I was wondering the same thing, but in the write up it says otherwise:

"Since androsterone is a 100% natural steroid, it also has an excellent safety profile, even at high doses (6-15) –

Zero conversion to estrogen
Non-methylated & Non-toxic to the liver
No negative effect on cholesterol levels
No lethargy or nausea"


primordialperformance.com/store/epiandrosterone-androhard.html
hmmm... I really don't want to feel like crap for a month...

They do saw, however, that this stuff isn't very suppressive at all..

Holy logic defying supplements batman...
i would stack any PH/DS with DERMACRINE anyway...

[freefall365]

i'm hoping a PP rep will comment..

[thebigt]

i'm hoping a PP rep will comment..

look at old logs of mmv2-the original, not the 'new and improved', lol. i used it at 6 caps daily on 2 different cycles and had no lethargy. no one else who was logging it reported lethargy that i can remember.


btw-everything that suppresses will not cause lethargy-test cyp suppresses at least as much as most ph's, and energy increases not decreases are the common response.

[freefall365]

thanks t i'm psyched to check out those logs...knew there had to be another androsterone product somewhere

[freefall365]

by the way, i just did some digging around on the PP board about AH and it looks like people are actually reporting energy boosts after dosing. lethargy doesn't seem to be a prob.

[thebigt]

by the way, i just did some digging around on the PP board about AH and it looks like people are actually reporting energy boosts after dosing. lethargy doesn't seem to be a prob.

that was my experience with the original mmv2-as a matter of fact most used it pre-workout specifically for the energy boost. i believe i was dosing 4 pre workout and 2 later in day.

[JN230]

If i were you i would run it with DERMACRINE, so you will not feel like crap and tired all the time...

thats quite the opposite of how i felt on The One which is slightly similar i think, i actually had a pretty good feeling all day on the stuff if i split up the dosages

[freefall365]

my PP order arrived yesterday : )

1 bottle of androhard, TRS, and 2 formestane (for later)

Almost time to get started on the AH!

[LiveNDie]

look at old logs of mmv2-the original, not the 'new and improved', lol. i used it at 6 caps daily on 2 different cycles and had no lethargy. no one else who was logging it reported lethargy that i can remember.


btw-everything that suppresses will not cause lethargy-test cyp suppresses at least as much as most ph's, and energy increases not decreases are the common response.

Test improves transmission between membranes...