New AndroHard ?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by freefall365 View Post
    does anyone think stacking natadrol or 11 sterone with androhard would be a good idea?
    11-sterone would be sweet......good way to get nice and ripped.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by WIULifter View Post
    11-sterone would be sweet......good way to get nice and ripped.
    That's what I was thinking would TRS be enough PCT for the stack of 11sterone and androhard?

  3. Quote Originally Posted by freefall365 View Post
    That's what I was thinking would TRS be enough PCT for the stack of 11sterone and androhard?
    I would think so. With the new Testosterone Conversion Factor-1 out, you could include this and be even more sure of recovery.
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  4. thanks. this will be my first run so I'm looking for any advice I can get. by the way I'm doing about a 25 day run. it should be pretty mild, which is good for me. Just wondering what I can expect by adding something like the 11sterone into the mix as far as sides, shutdown, and increased gains from using the two together.

  5. bumb b/c i'm trying to place an order tomorrow morning from NP so i don't run out of whey

  6. Androhard is especially useful with Alpha-T2: The Best Lean Muscle Stack!
    HIGH VOLUME - Supreme Stim-Free Nitric Oxide Matrix
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined

  7. Quote Originally Posted by freefall365 View Post
    this looks promising. i'm thinking about running it as a standalone... can we even talk about this here?
    If i were you i would run it with DERMACRINE, so you will not feel like crap and tired all the time...

  8. Quote Originally Posted by LiveNDie View Post
    If i were you i would run it with DERMACRINE, so you will not feel like crap and tired all the time...
    or test cyp....
    http://www.ironchampusa.com/112.html

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  9. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    or test cyp....
    Yes if your local laws allow such things, or if you have a prescription. And possibly if breaking the law is your cup of tea if that is so i would recommend Prop or Eth esters.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by LiveNDie View Post
    Yes if your local laws allow such things, or if you have a prescription. And possibly if breaking the law is your cup of tea if that is so i would recommend Prop or Eth esters.
    i am as legal as obama's birth certificate.... well possibly a little more than that, lol.
    http://www.ironchampusa.com/112.html

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  11. Quote Originally Posted by LiveNDie View Post
    If i were you i would run it with DERMACRINE, so you will not feel like crap and tired all the time...
    Really? is this a side of AH? I thought it wasn't supposed to make u lethargic or anything?

  12. Anything that suppresses test will make you lethargic.. if im wrong someone please correct me.

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i am as legal as obama's birth certificate.... well possibly a little more than that, lol.
    lol

  13. Quote Originally Posted by LiveNDie View Post
    Anything that suppresses test will make you lethargic.. if im wrong someone please correct me.
    You definitely are using sound logic here and I was wondering the same thing, but in the write up it says otherwise:

    "Since androsterone is a 100% natural steroid, it also has an excellent safety profile, even at high doses (6-15) –

    Zero conversion to estrogen
    Non-methylated & Non-toxic to the liver
    No negative effect on cholesterol levels
    No lethargy or nausea"


    hmmm... I really don't want to feel like crap for a month +...

    They do saw, however, that this stuff isn't very suppressive at all..

  14. Quote Originally Posted by freefall365 View Post
    You definitely are using sound logic here and I was wondering the same thing, but in the write up it says otherwise:

    "Since androsterone is a 100% natural steroid, it also has an excellent safety profile, even at high doses (6-15)

    Zero conversion to estrogen
    Non-methylated & Non-toxic to the liver
    No negative effect on cholesterol levels
    No lethargy or nausea"


    primordialperformance.com/store/epiandrosterone-androhard.html
    hmmm... I really don't want to feel like crap for a month...

    They do saw, however, that this stuff isn't very suppressive at all..
    Holy logic defying supplements batman...
    i would stack any PH/DS with DERMACRINE anyway...

  15. i'm hoping a PP rep will comment..

  16. Quote Originally Posted by freefall365 View Post
    i'm hoping a PP rep will comment..
    look at old logs of mmv2-the original, not the 'new and improved', lol. i used it at 6 caps daily on 2 different cycles and had no lethargy. no one else who was logging it reported lethargy that i can remember.


    btw-everything that suppresses will not cause lethargy-test cyp suppresses at least as much as most ph's, and energy increases not decreases are the common response.
    http://www.ironchampusa.com/112.html

    USE CODE BIGT50OFF

  17. thanks t i'm psyched to check out those logs...knew there had to be another androsterone product somewhere

  18. by the way, i just did some digging around on the PP board about AH and it looks like people are actually reporting energy boosts after dosing. lethargy doesn't seem to be a prob.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by freefall365 View Post
    by the way, i just did some digging around on the PP board about AH and it looks like people are actually reporting energy boosts after dosing. lethargy doesn't seem to be a prob.
    that was my experience with the original mmv2-as a matter of fact most used it pre-workout specifically for the energy boost. i believe i was dosing 4 pre workout and 2 later in day.
    http://www.ironchampusa.com/112.html

    USE CODE BIGT50OFF

  20. Quote Originally Posted by LiveNDie View Post
    If i were you i would run it with DERMACRINE, so you will not feel like crap and tired all the time...
    thats quite the opposite of how i felt on The One which is slightly similar i think, i actually had a pretty good feeling all day on the stuff if i split up the dosages

  21. my PP order arrived yesterday : )

    1 bottle of androhard, TRS, and 2 formestane (for later)

    Almost time to get started on the AH!

  22. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    look at old logs of mmv2-the original, not the 'new and improved', lol. i used it at 6 caps daily on 2 different cycles and had no lethargy. no one else who was logging it reported lethargy that i can remember.


    btw-everything that suppresses will not cause lethargy-test cyp suppresses at least as much as most ph's, and energy increases not decreases are the common response.
    Test improves transmission between membranes...
  

  
 

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