Yes, check it: I was taking NOS Ether Level 1, which has 3gr creatine per serving, iirc. I finished a 60 serving can of that, then went straight into logging Green Bulge. I was working out in 3 20 minute sessions a day, before 3 2 hours intense judo classes. Weight and reps went up significantly, despite burning a ****ton of calories in judo, and not trying to bulk or anything. I went off GB straight to cre02, and lost strength (but gained endurance, which is where cre02 shines).
that's just insane. I'm not sure what did it, I assume the orotic acid.