My Dad needs to sleep, Need opinions!!!!
- 04-09-2010, 07:21 PM
- 04-09-2010, 07:27 PM
- 04-09-2010, 07:32 PM
04-09-2010, 07:41 PM
sorry guys, hes tried pure GABA, and Melatonin, and no tylenol PM you dont get into REM sleep with it, try it and notice you are groggy as **** the next day
04-09-2010, 08:28 PM
Melatonin used in conjunction with GHenerate/I-GH-1 has produced some of the most deeply relaxing, restful, sleep I've ever experienced. Not only do I sleep like a baby, and have extremely vivid dreams, I wake up refreshed and energized.
04-09-2010, 08:34 PM
04-09-2010, 08:35 PM
and also a good HARD workout or a good amount of cardio. Basically somthing that will drain all your energy. Works wonders for me.
04-09-2010, 09:06 PM
if the cost of somnidren was an issue, look again it's on sale at nutra. i am 51 and work 3rd shift-somnidren is the best otc sleep aid i have tried-trust me i have tried plenty.
04-09-2010, 09:32 PM
well yes it is on sale but that is still pretty expensive, what aobut sleep hangover on somnidren? and do u use 1 scoop or 1/2?
04-09-2010, 09:34 PM
04-09-2010, 09:43 PM
he ust started exercising and its helping a little but hes also type 2 so im trying to increase muscle growth to increase insulin sensativity.....
less drugs the better
hes also 57 so less hormones overall= less sleep generally for older folks
04-09-2010, 09:44 PM
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04-09-2010, 09:47 PM
04-09-2010, 09:48 PM
Ya dont take tylenol PM you are so groggy the next day it sucks...
My friend is an insomniac and he takes Lunesta. i tried one when i was having trouble sleeping during my law school finals. It knocked me out and i felt great the next day.
also try Valerian its a natural way to fall asleep.
Over the counter:
Compoz, Sleepinal, Sominex and Nytol
Unisom its a different chemical compound then the ones above so if those dont work try unisom..
04-09-2010, 09:52 PM
04-09-2010, 09:57 PM
04-09-2010, 09:58 PM
I have tried everything and honestly nothing worked as well as the prescription but i guess that can be expected. I used to have so much trouble sleeping back in law school...
04-09-2010, 10:05 PM
04-09-2010, 10:13 PM
has anybody ever posted a sticky on sleep aids? this comes up pretty often. i use doxylamine succinate(generic unisom 192 for like $7 @ costco) have used my share of benadryl(tylenol pm, you-name-it pm,sominex, nytol etc...) have tried most herbs(valerian, hops, chamomile, passion flower, kava, etc, etc...) also, phenibut/gaba, tryptophan, melatonin, theanine, zma, etc... for me, sleep is a highly subtle thing & i really dont succeed by bludgeoning myself into a stupor or unconsciousness. there's a big difference between knocked out & a good nights sleep. a remedy that help one time wont help the next, very tricky.
04-09-2010, 11:29 PM
04-09-2010, 11:38 PM
Meletonin and velerian root together always did me wonders in the days of me abusing drugs...Its funny I was taking this stuff before I got into bodybuilding..
04-09-2010, 11:52 PM
04-09-2010, 11:56 PM
well just letting you know. some nights I would only need like 2 pills of meletonin then again other nights I need like 8. So I mean I beleive it does work...just know our situation and stress level.
04-10-2010, 12:32 AM
Take it ~2 hours when you want to start sleeping. Warning though: Its going to make you graugy the next day.
04-10-2010, 07:50 AM
That will knock out a horse. Also try SLOW release melatonin - easy to buy.Benadryl 50mg
S-Gh appears to work on the principle of synergy. S-Gh 1/2 dose + either of the above should also work.
If it doesn't a Remalton script (I've probably spelt that wrong). That will cost $$$. It avoids benzos.
We do need to make a sleep sticky. Watch for tolerance BTW.
04-10-2010, 07:54 AM
If you ever have a serious problem combining a benzo based drug with CBT will provide a long term solution to insomnia. The benzo will be tapered after a few months - along with the CBT - but the technique has to last a life time.
04-10-2010, 07:58 AM
6mg melatonin is ALOT. Bioman uses more in fact.
TestoPRO has an excellent reputation BTW.
I've got a heap of melatonin that I'm never gonna use. I never took to it, never will.
04-10-2010, 08:09 AM
04-10-2010, 12:16 PM
04-10-2010, 01:06 PM
Instead of supplements, look at what may cause a trigger?
For example, is he consuming any caffeine or alcohol within 4 hours of bedtime? A coca cola, a glass of wine...even a little bit of these can dramatically alter your body's sleep regulation mechanism.
04-10-2010, 01:19 PM
04-10-2010, 02:14 PM
i have had sleeping problems since i was a child, it is even worse when i have something important to do early the next day-i will go to bed early planning to get up early, doesn't work. i will just lie in bed trying to sleep until i am wide awake, then i just get up and watch tv or sit at computer until i eventually fall asleep. i am a diagnosed insomniac, and the only things that have helped are prescription klonipin and otc somnidren gh.
04-10-2010, 05:07 PM
04-10-2010, 07:49 PM
It'd take out a blue whale as well |-)
BigT ask for a script for Ramelteon, the insurance should cover it (?). Just approved by the much loved FDA. Bit of a break through for serious stuff.
04-10-2010, 08:13 PM
04-10-2010, 08:24 PM
"Trigger" is CBT speak.
Some cases of insomnia can be cured via CBT, but you've got to take it seriously otherwise its pointless. Its all about association and targeted drug usage to build the association between the bedroom and getting to sleep. Insomniacs (I'm not one) associate "the bed" with insomnia, which reinforces the insomnia - its about breaking the cycle.
somnidren... thats very generous.
04-10-2010, 09:30 PM
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