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    Need sum help are advice!!!!!!!


    New to all this and was thinking about staking Winabol and Epitest im looking to cutt weight an lean out as well as gaining a lil more muscle in certain areas im going to get on some liver support an a PCT any suggestions on how to run this stuff i want to do it the right way an best way possible and help will be appreciated thanks.....o yea and whats this 20/30/50/50 stuff i keep seeing?

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    Age? Diet? Workout history? General health condition? What do you have lined up for in terms of liver support and pct? Whats your cycle history?

    The 20/30/50/50 means 20= miligrams // = week, so 20 milligrams one week, 30 the next, 50 the next two.
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    im 23yrs old 5'9 205 i been working out an competing in boxing an mma since i was 17 wrestled all threw middle school and high school tryed diffrent supplements at gnc def nothing worked no pro/horm...tho im currently taking bcaa liquid no explode an multi vit... joint an fsh oil an whey protein im in great health no problems...i dont smoke are do any drugs never have never took steriods are anything in that short of matter i use to work out with body builders just learning diffrent ways to work out i diet strick alot of veggies an lean meats only eat red meat maybe 2x in a month...
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    Holy grammar Batman!
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    i was also looking at the PCT from powerlab but i just want to know the best possible way to stack these two winabol an epitest as for the liver support GNC sells a nice one so ima go pick that up as soon i can get sum more knowlegable information on running this stuff into my schedule..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naberious View Post
    Holy grammar Batman!
    LOL!
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    for one im not in school an dont want to be so i feel grammer isnt something im worried about trying to do on here as long as you can understand what im saying then were all good... i dont want **** answers just information on different products.
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    For those interested:
    Winabol: 5a- androstano[2,3-c]furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol ether 50mg (Orastan, furazabol?)

    Epitest: 4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene3, 17bdiol 20mg (Halodrol?)
    2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol 15mg (epi)

    Powertest Post Cycle contains: Post Cycle 4245mg

    A Proprietary Formula Of:
    Tribulus Terrestris, Caffeine, Creatine Ethyl Ester, L-Arginine, Eurycoma Longifolia, Coleus Forskohlii (20%)(yeilding 20mg Forskolin), Dandelion Root, Bioperene, Zinc, Magnesium Aspertate.

    The post cycle looks like junk so skip that one. Your running 3 hormonals which leads me to think that you will be looking at a pharmaceutical SERM, please review the Post Cycle Therapy section for that as that will provide you with more information than I can provide.

    To be honest with you, I would suggest looking at an alternative cycle, those three seem like they would harm your health. Your also looking at a god awful difficult post cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BxDoZa View Post
    for one im not in school an dont want to be so i feel grammer isnt something im worried about trying to do on here as long as you can understand what im saying then were all good... i dont want **** answers just information on different products.
    Well, that's kinda the problem...it's hard to understand what your saying. I had to read your posts two/three times to get what you were asking. It just helps to get the answers your looking for by being clear.
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    i got you ill post better grammer next time all that needed to be said was culdnt understand please repost instead of people acting like kids an saying things that shouldnt be said. i think if someone dont have anything good to say dont say anything at all thats all im getting at..


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    thanks for the information and your thoughts bro i will look at the Post Cycle Therapy section and read up on it. i done ordered everything so its kinda hard to change up on a different stack but ill look at some alternatives...on the PCT you have anything in mind that i can take... thanks for your help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BxDoZa View Post
    on the PCT you have anything in mind that i can take... thanks for your help.
    I'm not as much of an expert on PCT as I'd like to think, but you should be looking at clomid or Nolvadex. Definitely search for a guide to those two, there should be some information in the pct section. As to where you can purchase the two compounds, its against forum rules to ask and for me to say, but beyond that, I havent a clue sadly.

    Good luck and keep searching for more information!
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    sorry about that i forgot yea ima def research some different PCT i cant take nothing illegal so it has to be something i can buy on a online nutrition store.
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    Anyone know of the post cycle support from Anabolic innovations? are has tryed it? It says it was designed for the prohorm : Halodrol/epi if so what mg to run it at during are after your stack?
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    You may be interested in this stack, it has overwhelmingly positive reviews for both strength and muscle mass:

    http://www.primordialperformance.com...iqua-vade.html

    Followed by this for pct:

    http://www.primordialperformance.com...ery_stack.html

    I know you already said you bought the supplements but you have to remember that you will be seeing your gains disappear without a proper pct, and you may also want to start off with a more mild cycle versus going head first into the stronger stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BxDoZa View Post
    Anyone know of the post cycle support from Anabolic innovations? are has tryed it? It says it was designed for the prohorm : Halodrol/epi if so what mg to run it at during are after your stack?
    Never used it and havent found a huge wealth of reviews on it, but it comes from a really quality company so you may be in good hands if you ask a rep about it.
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    they have a forum thread on the AI PCT on AM i cant post the link it told me i needed 50 post counts to put it on here but ill research it some more and see what else i can find.
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    I recommend doing a lot more research before jumping into this. I don't think you really know what it is you are about to do, and the possible consequences of not doing it in a responsible manner, both on cycle and PCT. BTW, you may test positive if using winabol and epi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seunim View Post
    I recommend doing a lot more research before jumping into this. I don't think you really know what it is you are about to do, and the possible consequences of not doing it in a responsible manner, both on cycle and PCT. BTW, you may test positive if using winabol and epi.
    Thats all very true, I really must caution you to take as much time as possible to nail down your diet, workout routines, sleep, etc. And to definitely reconsider the compounds you want to run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BxDoZa View Post
    sorry about that i forgot yea ima def research some different PCT i cant take nothing illegal so it has to be something i can buy on a online nutrition store.
    bad call.
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    so you saying i will test pos if i ran the two for roids are a false negitive for some other sub...? If win an epi are legal pro/horm you shouldnt get into any problems for it. as for the stack i been looking at stuff an researching but im also on this form to learn and to get a guide on what to do right so it can be stacked correctly. if anyone can point me in the right direction of stacking the two so i can read an see what i will have to do. all help is very appreciated. I dont see how stacking these two and by running a correct diet on top of correct vits. liver support and pct can go wrong when i see all these other insane stacks people are doing with pro/horms? im new to the pro/horms not the work out world and how to diet and let alone sleep.... please fill me in on this.
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