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    Ephedrine Sulfate/HCl experiment


    For those interested in trying a little experiment, I am getting an excellent but not overwhelming (anxiety-wise) reaction.

    12.5 mg E Sulfate
    12.5 mg E HCl
    200mg caffeine

    Never kicks in TOO hard like E HCl, and doesn't cause that weird draining feeling like pure E Sulfate. Perfect blend for me, that seems to last a good 6 hours without a harsh drop.

    Fatloss is decent as well.
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    HCI does seem to be stronger and more effective then the sulfate version but the 200mg caffeine alone could be the culprit for that harsh drop. I find that ephedrine can give a nice clean energy when taken correctly but caffeine always leads to a crash at some point. I could see how the sulfate version could take some edge off because it's not as strong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaw View Post
    HCI does seem to be stronger and more effective then the sulfate version but the 200mg caffeine alone could be the culprit for that harsh drop. I find that ephedrine can give a nice clean energy when taken correctly but caffeine always leads to a crash at some point. I could see how the sulfate version could take some edge off because it's not as strong.
    I think I'm just getting old. I've been doing 25/200 of HCl/caffeine since '95. Just in the past year or two has it gotten to be too harsh on me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I think I'm just getting old. I've been doing 25/200 of HCl/caffeine since '95. Just in the past year or two has it gotten to be too harsh on me.
    That's a long time bro! Your cortisol output might be limited and that's why your feeling some anxiety. It happens. The body tells us when something is wrong. I know many friends who suddenly become sensitive to stimulants over time or suddenly feel anxiety out of nowhere. I guess it's just life getting to us and the stims don't help cause they decrease our ability to deal with stress when over used. You may have finally reached a point where u need some recovery time from stims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I think I'm just getting old. I've been doing 25/200 of HCl/caffeine since '95. Just in the past year or two has it gotten to be too harsh on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I think I'm just getting old. I've been doing 25/200 of HCl/caffeine since '95. Just in the past year or two has it gotten to be too harsh on me.


    maybe not is for you "just getting old" IMO works better on OBESE PEOPLE and you not obese
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
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    Gimme a break. Talking about regular cycling.
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    I use:

    12.5 mg E Sulfate
    200mg caffeine
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    3x day and WOW...........not feel the crash
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I think I'm just getting old. I've been doing 25/200 of HCl/caffeine since '95. Just in the past year or two has it gotten to be too harsh on me.
    at 39 you aren't old, but i sure did have some mileage racked up at that age, lol. cutting weight down to 200 or less has become my priority. gonna do 1 bronkaid in morning and 1 afternoon stacked with nattys alpha-t2 and 1 adipox v2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    at 39 you aren't old, but i sure did have some mileage racked up at that age, lol. cutting weight down to 200 or less has become my priority. gonna do 1 bronkaid in morning and 1 afternoon stacked with nattys alpha-t2 and 1 adipox v2.
    you mean Adipoxil V2....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    you mean Adipoxil V2....?
    no, adipo-x v2 by axis. but i have heard good things about the other.
    started this stack yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    no, adipo-x v2 by axis. but i have heard good things about the other.
    started this stack yesterday.
    i only used the first version and IMO was AND is the BEST
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    i only used the first version and IMO was AND is the BEST
    getting decent results, i like the smooth energy. the alpha t-2 and bronkaid definitely gave it a boost. plus with the hemodraulix it's very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    getting decent results, i like the smooth energy. the alpha t-2 and bronkaid definitely gave it a boost. plus with the hemodraulix it's very good.
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    The difference is night and day.

    Anyone else with this combo yet? VERY subtle, but sustained energy with this blend of salts. Seems odd that it would be this dramatically different.

    The sulfate is a bit more expensive, unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    The difference is night and day.

    Anyone else with this combo yet? VERY subtle, but sustained energy with this blend of salts. Seems odd that it would be this dramatically different.

    The sulfate is a bit more expensive, unfortunately.
    What OTC products contain the sulfate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    What OTC products contain the sulfate?
    Bronk-Aid is the only one I've found. $12.99 for 60 at Walgreen's.
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    Ahh ok. I get the "walgreens bronchial asthma relief". I believe it is the HCl
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Ahh ok. I get the "walgreens bronchial asthma relief". I believe it is the HCl
    Yep, that is the little yellow ones...the HCl, which hit me HARD.

    I've been using 12.5 of the sulfate with 12.5 of the HCl (one white, one yellow) and been thoroughly impressed with the lack of anxiety combined with a seeming enhancement of lipolysis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Yep, that is the little yellow ones...the HCl, which hit me HARD.

    I've been using 12.5 of the sulfate with 12.5 of the HCl (one white, one yellow) and been thoroughly impressed with the lack of anxiety combined with a seeming enhancement of lipolysis.
    i been taking 1 bronkaid/2 adipox v2/2 alpha t2 pre workout and thinking of upping it to 2 bronkaid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Yep, that is the little yellow ones...the HCl, which hit me HARD.

    I've been using 12.5 of the sulfate with 12.5 of the HCl (one white, one yellow) and been thoroughly impressed with the lack of anxiety combined with a seeming enhancement of lipolysis.
    both 3 times day?
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