- 03-17-2010, 03:29 PM
I have been using Jack3D and LOVE it! But just wanted to try something different so I switched to the Muscle Tech naNO Vapor and was very disapointed, it didnt have near the pump and focusing abilities that Jack3D did and the worse part was it upset my stomach very badly, so bad I had to leave the gym to go home and throw up.
Has anyone else had these side effects from vapor?
- 03-17-2010, 04:03 PM
THE REASON FOR THE PROBS IS ITS CRAP
- 03-17-2010, 04:52 PM
I've never heard of someone going from Jack3d to Nano, just the other way around...
Nano is terrible because MT throws in 50+ ingredients into a proprietary blend of only 8 grams/serving. There is no possible way that any ingredient (save caffeine) can be included in a significant enough amount for it to have any notable effect. This strategy just makes the label look impressive to people who aren't very familiar with supplements in general.
03-17-2010, 04:53 PM
03-17-2010, 05:08 PM
yea ive tried it b4 did nothing for me. tasted like s**t, and made me feel really sick during workouts! didnt mind black powder found that worked good for me, can u get the Jack3D in australia i havent seen it around, mind u we dont have any major supp shops near me. gotta drive 2 hrs to the city
03-17-2010, 06:26 PM
03-17-2010, 06:27 PM
03-17-2010, 06:51 PM
do not use MuscleTech products.
do not use MuscleTech products.
03-17-2010, 07:04 PM
dam str8 man, i moved from a the gold coast a biggish city when i met my mrs and family come along, back up near my parents who live in the country own a farm n ****. but yet 2hrs north and south of us are the main cities.
and also i just checked ebay. they got a fair few locally in australia for sale. which is good.
so u reckon its the way to go hay?? hmm i got not pre workout supps at all atm might have to look into it more and try get some.
03-17-2010, 07:05 PM
03-17-2010, 07:25 PM
bad news my friend... Muscle Asylum Project is an offshoot of Muscletech, all owned by Iovate... they needed a "hardcore" looking brand, so MAP was born.
i'm not just riding the bandwagon here... i've tried numerous MT products, and not a single one did anything remotely close to what they advertise.
03-17-2010, 08:02 PM
03-17-2010, 08:03 PM
03-17-2010, 10:47 PM
03-17-2010, 11:18 PM
i threw my nano away when my jack3d got here, all nano did was make me bloated, i have become an official jack3d lover.
03-17-2010, 11:35 PM
03-18-2010, 06:51 AM
03-18-2010, 07:17 AM
Amount Per Serving / % Daily Value
Total Carbohydrates 12g 4%*
Sugars 5g +
Calcium 100mg 10%
Sodium 220mg 9%
NaNo Vapor� Proprietary Blend 22031mg
Intravol� (Muscle Cell Volumizing Complex) +
Creatine Monohydrate ** +
Creatine Anhydrous ** +
Creatine Malate +
Creatine Alpha-Ketoglutarate +
Tri-Creatine HCA +
Creatine L-Pyroglutamate +
Cinnamon Extract (As Cinnamomum Cassia Blume)(Bark) +
--(Standardized To 40% Polyphenols)
Taurine Ethyl Ester HCL +
Taurine Alpha-Ketoglutarate +
18 Beta Glycyrrhetinic Acid +
Coriolus Versicolor Powder (Plant) +
Vasoprime� (Nitric Oxide Amplification Matrix) +
D-Glucose Monosaccharide +
L-Arginine ** +
L-Aspartic Acid +
Di-Sodium Phosphate +
Di-Potassium Phosphate +
Di-Calcium Phosphate +
Xanthinol Nicotinate +
L-Arginine Ketoisocaproic Acid +
L-Arginine Ethyl Ester HCL +
L-Norvaline Ethyl Ester HCL +
Asian Ginseng Extract (As Panax Ginseng)(Plant) +
--(Standardized To 25% Ginsenosides)
Citrulline Malate +
L-Citrulline Ethyl Ester +
L-Histidine Alpha-Ketoglutarate +
Gynostemma Pentaphyllum Extract (Root) +
--(Standardized To 85% Gypenosides)
Acetyl L-Carnitine L-Arginine Dihydrochloride +
Salvia Miltiorrhiza Bunge Powder (Cryptotanshione) +
Artichoke Flavonoids (As Cynara Scolymus L.)(Root) +
Crataegus Pinnauficia Bunge Extract (Berry) +
NeuroAMP� (Psychoactive Signaling Intensify Catalyst) +
N-Acetyl L-Tyrosine +
Alpha Glycerophosphocholine +
Cis-9, 10-Octadecenoamide +
Huperzine-A (As Huperzia Serrata) +
Anaphex� (Anabolic/Anti-Catabolic Signaling Complex) +
Beta Alanine +
Beta Alanine Ethyl Ester HCL +
L-Leucine Methyl Ester HCL +
L-Leucine Alpha-Ketoglutarate +
L-Leucine Isovaleric Acid +
Isoleucine Ethyl Ester HCL +
L-Isoleucine Methyl Ester HCL +
L-Valine Ethyl Ester HCL +
L-Valine Alpha-Ketoglutarate +
Alpha Amino L-Butyrate +
Infernogen� (Lipid Inferno Fusion) +
Caffeine Anhydrous +
--(Standardized For 117 Mg Caffeine)
Yerba Mate Powder (As Llex Paraguariensis)(Leaf) +
N-Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCL +
Yohimbine HCL (Pausinystalia Yohimbe)(Bark) +
Evodia Rutaecarpa Extract(As Tetradium Ruticarpum) +
--(Standardized For 10% Evodiamine)
Black Tea Extract (As Camellia Sinensis)(Leaf) +
--(Standard For 70% Polyphenols,50% Catechins,25% EGCG)
Theobroma Cacao Extract (Seed) +
--(Standardized For 6% Theobromine)
White Tea Extract (As Camellia Sinensis)(Leaf) +
--(Standard For 50% Polyphenols,35% Catechins,15% EGCG)
White Willow Extract (As Salix Alba)(Bark) +
--(Standardized For 25% Salicin)
11-Hydroxy Yohimbine +
MyoGF� (Growth Complex) +
Fenugreek Ext.(As Trigonella Foenum-Gracum)(Seed) +
--(Standardized To 20% 4-Hydroxyisoleucine)
Quercetin Dihydrate (Citrus Bioflavonoid) �
Dihydroxy-Diosgenin(25R-5 Alpha-Spirostan-2-Alpha,3 Beta)+
Acetyl L-Cysteine Amide +
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet
+ Daily Value not established
Citric Acid, Natural And Artificial Flavors, Sodium Bicarbonate, Calcium Silicate, Acesulfame Potassium, Sucralose, FD&C Blue #2 Lake, FD&C Yellow #5 Lake, FD&C Blue #1, FD&C Yellow #5
03-18-2010, 08:08 AM
I kinda liked Asylums Anabolic O.D. Haven't had any of their products in a while because they don't sell them at my Vitamin Shoppe for some reason. Just about every last thing from Muscle Tech is garbage, example the Anabolic Halo. My friends jumped on that bandwagon and splurged like 65$ when it first came out for it. It says it has everything you need, yea well that maybe right but its not enough to do anything at all. Now they are releasing all this new and improved hardcore crap, so you know they have been selling us crap for years now. Jack3d is amazing, No Explode blows just like Nano, Dynamatize's Expand is really not too bad at all. I just messed up when taking it. It says to take one scoop, and i figured it was like Nano so i took three and kept getting sick and hated it. Finally dropped it down to one scoop and it was awesome, on the Jack3d lvl of pre-workouts. I got black powder in those pre made packets, and i cant even finish the crap it is so horrible. I went to the hospital for stomach pains from drinking that stuff. Never again will i look at anything from MRI. I really want to try that new Hemorage and the N.O. Shotgun, and suggestions or reviews on those?
03-18-2010, 08:18 AM
I got 2 containers for $10 of vapor at gnc on clearance. I gave away 1 and a 1/2 tubs of nano vapor. It sucks. Jacked3d and sp250 get my love
03-18-2010, 08:41 AM
HOLY.... i know muscle tech has a laundry list of ingredients but i didn't know it was everything under the sun...i do know a few friends that like nano vapor but i won't spend that kind of money on supplements unless a company comes out with a cure all product...i'd give it a try if someone gave me some for free, i'll never turn down free supplements really...but no explode is just as bad...bsn is the new muscletech
03-18-2010, 08:47 AM
It's mostly for younger people, new to lifting. When i was younger, i bought all Muscle Tech and thought it was bad ass until i found stuff that actually worked.
03-18-2010, 08:50 AM
03-18-2010, 08:55 AM
I've tried both, and I think Nano is better than explode because you get that nice thick layer of froth and its just gritty, when Nano doesn't have it but is still equally nasty in taste.
JAcked Lemon tastes like that minute maide lemonade in a bottle. The punch tastes like Hawaiin punch.
****** IMPORTANT MONEY SAVING TIP *******
Mix a scoop of Jacked with some sort of juice such as Welches or Hawaiin Punch, It gets into your body faster with the natural sugars, and since i take around 2 scoops, it knocks me down to 1 again.
03-18-2010, 09:07 AM
03-18-2010, 09:45 AM
marriage would tie me down gamer, what if something better comes along? it just gets ugly, like when i met jack3d haha
03-18-2010, 01:16 PM
i mix 2 scoops of Jack3d with 2 scoops of Anadraulic Pump.
03-18-2010, 02:21 PM
The few times I actually made it to the gym instead of the bathroom while taking muscletech products I found that their products are not what they are hyped up to be.
03-18-2010, 02:26 PM
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