Diesel test anti-e an prostate support?
- 03-11-2010, 07:43 PM
Diesel test anti-e an prostate support?
I found a thread with somewhat of the information I am looking for but now I can't remember the exact words I searched to find it so I'm posting.
I am considering taking diesel test pro and someone recommended taking an anti-estrogen and a prostate health supplement as well. Is this necessary? I don't mind spending the extra cash to benefit the gains if it's worth it.
So far I've seen 6-oxo and mentioned a lot. Any suggestions on anti-e's that aren't all marketing hype and some prostate health support?
- 03-11-2010, 07:57 PM
I don't see why you would need anywhile on DTP. It might be of benefit to throw in some to help with any shedding issues that may occur though. It's not a must to throw an AI in the mix as well. It's no different than throwing in an AI with any other test booster IMO. Some people like to stack like that, others may not. It wouldn't hurt if that's what you're asking...but certainly not needed.
- 03-11-2010, 08:33 PM
03-11-2010, 08:36 PM
Some people reported prostate swelling from the extra testosterone, or so they claim. So just to be safe, that's why I'm asking. And also it was just mentioned that your estrogen might go up for whatever reason so to have an anti-e to be safe. Some people are using anti-e's stand alone so I guess it can't hurt right? I just don't want to be peeing every 20 minutes. It has dhea in it which a study showed that it did nothing, and then another study saying it does increase test.
03-11-2010, 08:45 PM
DHEA can convert directly to testosterone...yes. But it is also converted to a few other things as well. How much of it actually converts to test varies from person to person I'd imagine. Testosterone can aromatize...so with any test booster, not just DTP, with more test would probably equate to more aromatization. But not to a degree that I would be worried about at all. DPT also claims on the product page to lower the bad estrogen in your body. Like I said...if you're nervous as hell then run the AI, it won't hurt you. I would recommend Formestane. But it's not necessary.
03-11-2010, 09:06 PM
I have a source for basically 30% off typical market price, so I'll just pick all that up. Usually you get even more discount with cash, so I will be on the overworried side and get the formestane and whatever prostate health supp they have in stock. It should be really cheap so I might as well.
03-11-2010, 10:36 PM
03-11-2010, 10:40 PM
Nutraplanet is better than most, but the place I go is even cheaper .
On a rare occasion bb.com is cheaper but for most of the stuff I get I can go get it in person, no shipping, and pay cash and get it cheap!
Edit: I checked nutraplanet, everything is a LOT more expensive than what I am going to pay.
03-11-2010, 11:00 PM
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03-11-2010, 11:26 PM
03-12-2010, 10:47 AM
Prostate problems are the result of excess E2. Control E2 and you wont have any prostate or gyno problems. DTP contains DIM. DIM is Lowers E2 and regulates the E1 and E3, good stuff and all natural. I have used DTP and had my PSA tested at the end of the cycle. MY PSA is normally around 1 to 1.2 after my three kings cycle, which included DTP, it tested at 0.8. So I don't think you have any issues in this area. However, high levels of DHEA has been shown to cause free radicals it the liver. High levels of DHEA have been shown to cause liver tumors in mice. I have considered using Dermicrane on several occasions but have shyed away due to research such as this.
03-12-2010, 12:05 PM
I routinely take liver support for the heck of it but I don't know if it covers tumors. Think I will be safe just taking 1 round of it? I've never taken anything other than protein before and I don't drink or do anything to stress my body in a negative way. I'd just do 4-6 weeks probably 2 days on 2 days off.
03-12-2010, 12:58 PM
relax and enjoy the gains.
03-12-2010, 01:33 PM
03-12-2010, 01:53 PM
03-12-2010, 02:23 PM
03-12-2010, 02:59 PM
03-12-2010, 04:26 PM
I have been contemplating a Dermacrine/Formestane cycle (both topical). I get the nerve to try it some day.
03-12-2010, 04:45 PM
03-12-2010, 07:33 PM
IIRC the bottle says to do 6 weeks of dtp, and 4 weeks of form. I will start the DTP today and start the form in 2 weeks. Unless someone suggests using the formestane for after I'm done with the dtp, but it's not like it's real gear and I need pct to control stuff. Any input is appreciated. Thanks for all the help so far.
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