- 03-06-2010, 12:00 PM
- 03-06-2010, 12:22 PM
I've checked this. You're mistaken. Its not like test - there's no shutdown.
You get a bit of insomnia after years "on" but that clears up.
Whether is beneficial or not - I really don't know but can be useful for overcoming jet-lag.
03-06-2010, 01:05 PM
03-06-2010, 01:07 PM
I think I worry about dependency more that it actually being the case. I've used high doses of melatonin for years and sleep great with it. When you find something that makes you sleep great...you're reluctant to be without it. On more than a few occasions, I have run out and still slept pretty well. I don't worry about dependency too much because our pituataries tend to stop working as we get old...hence elderly folks seldom sleep more than a few hours at a time.
lef.org has great articles on melatonin and its role as a potent antioxidant that regulates neurotransmitters, hormones etc as well as being strongly anti-cancer.
03-06-2010, 01:14 PM
03-06-2010, 01:16 PM
03-06-2010, 01:34 PM
There's a melatonin agonist which is interesting but $$$. Good science behind melatonin agonists. If I was going to supplement thats what I'd use but again $$$, although you don't know the long term stuff. Melatonin is safe long term.
Alot take melatonin - it is a cheap antioxidant. Personally I'll stick with MycoGreen (MST), although admittedly long term melatonin has a good track record, MycoGreen ... who knows?
03-06-2010, 01:57 PM
03-06-2010, 02:16 PM
03-06-2010, 02:22 PM
I'm detoxing on heavy Chlorella - which rocks. MycoGreen is in there low level 2 caps per day.
Its like a newer "me".
Anyway I'm on cycle right now so most supps are wound down, don't need Bs, C, adaptogens .. that sort of thing 'cause the energy is from 1T
03-06-2010, 02:26 PM
03-06-2010, 02:32 PM
03-06-2010, 03:34 PM
Your body produces melatonin naturally. Its not really a medication it's an actual hormone excreted by your body according to your circadian rhythm. I think any dependency actually experienced is purely psychological and should go away within a few days.
03-06-2010, 03:49 PM
Chlorella is unlike any veg. I've eaten.
Chelates heavy metals from the body.
Anyway lot of guys supporting melatonin here.
03-06-2010, 05:59 PM
carl lenore did a great show on melatonin, its one of the very few antioxidents taht passes the blood brain barrier, great for agining bad to take if you dotn NEED it and your bosys prodyuction hasnt gone down at all
03-07-2010, 07:28 PM
Great thread. Some top players contributing.
I'll rethink melatonin as a once in a while antioxidant. One of the reasons antioxidants are attractive is that they are rumoured to boost test, whilst melatonin is rumoured to contraindicate.
Alot of things can get through the BBB, ALCAR is just one. This thread makes you think again though. I tried melatonin but never liked it. The idea of a melatonin agonist always appealed to me - it was actually an experiment on zebra fish that caught my attention, so perhaps a poorly formed idea. Like if I'm trying to model my life on a fish, something is badly wrong with my life
03-07-2010, 08:16 PM
I used between 20-30mg per night most nights. I vary it just to keep my body guessing. If I run out, I use benedryl for a night or two to ween off and I seem to sleep fine. I have noticed over the last few years of use that my moods have become more stable...which is really nice because I used to be a bit bi-polar/depressive.
Its kind of the core of my antiaging regimen and the only negative study I have seen alluded to reduced thyroid function from high dosing, however I don't seem to have experienced this.
At this stage, I'd like to get ahold of some bulk melatonin... both for my use and my cat who has contacted osteosarcoma. Some positive studies showing accelerated aptosis with high dose melaonin.
03-07-2010, 08:20 PM
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