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DrchocolateMi

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i have been taking tribulus and zma for almost a year now and seem to got the most i could get by taking it. i did a lot of research on some other test booster product and im thinking about taking t-bomb II and controlled labs blue gene, would these two produjcts be good to take together? i appreciate any advice
 
DrchocolateMi said:
i have been taking tribulus and zma for almost a year now and seem to got the most i could get by taking it. i did a lot of research on some other test booster product and im thinking about taking t-bomb II and controlled labs blue gene, would these two produjcts be good to take together? i appreciate any advice
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Eh, T-Bomb II pretty much sucked for me. I haven't tried Blue Gene, but it looks like it would go great with T-911. There is a nice looking stack to break you away from the trib. ;)
 
You will probably be pretty happy with Blue Gene/Blue Up Stack. I actually have heard good things and will stack it soon enough. I am currently waiting on the HGH product from CL (or possibly HGHup-but I doubt I wont be all over the CL product), which will also most likely benefit this sort of stack.
 
DrchocolateMi said:
i have been taking tribulus and zma for almost a year now and seem to got the most i could get by taking it. i did a lot of research on some other test booster product and im thinking about taking t-bomb II and controlled labs blue gene, would these two produjcts be good to take together? i appreciate any advice
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Almost any test booster can work well for some people, but there are non-responders and light-responders to even the best "test boosters." Most of these do not even really boost test, but that's not to say they don't work. They can be extremely effective for the right person at the right time, and for a period of time. Even supplements that do boost TOTAL test, may not be that effective for you, if other condition are not right.

What I'm saying is that the whole view of looking for "test boosters" to solve the problem of stength or muscle building is somewhat cheap thinking as there are dozens of reasons even a top booster may not work well for a specific person. The real way of approaching this is asking the question: What will naturally make my body more anabolic for my specific goals right now?

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Best natural test combo IMO is Testopro, T-force and Formestane combo OR HCGenerate and Formestane. HCGenerate I believe is the best all around T-booster out there, 1 Gram of Testofen, 1 gram of Fadogia Agrestis, 500 mg's of 3,4 Divanillyltetrahydrofuran, 500mgs of Bulgarian Tribulus Terrestre and 100mgs of LJ:100. A natty Test booster don't get better then that lol IMO
 
tribulus did increase my muscle size a lot more quickly than the previoujs years i had been working out without it, i was taking 1,000 mg of it. tribulus by itself is a very cheap supplement. i also was taking lonjak i think is how it spelled(also a cheap supplement) with it, zma, animal pak, creatine, and protein. i started taking tribulus and longjak months after i was taking the other supplements. tribulus did improve my size and aggression in the gym but the aggression wheres off after u take it for so long. that y i looked at t-bomb II, it has many other ingredents shown to increase test levels and has estrogen blockers. and blue gene is designed to keep your hormones optimal and balanced. i looked up every ingredient in both these supplements and noticed that these to were safer and had less chance of side effects than other booster like diesel test and activate extreme, which are more potent and probably stronger. i took a look at blue ups, i almost chose it over t-bomb bc of price. but it doesnt contain estrogen blockers, that y i went with t-bomb. but im just looking for another test booster that will give me the results tribulus and longjak did when i first started taking them
 
JudgementDay said:
Best natural test combo IMO is Testopro, T-force and Formestane combo OR HCGenerate and Formestane. HCGenerate I believe is the best all around T-booster out there, 1 Gram of Testofen, 1 gram of Fadogia Agrestis, 500 mg's of 3,4 Divanillyltetrahydrofuran, 500mgs of Bulgarian Tribulus Terrestre and 100mgs of LJ:100. A natty Test booster don't get better then that lol IMO
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Judgement,

Ok. those are great STACKS, but they are stacks, and cover wide areas of test boosting leaving little to be left out. Many will find paying for whole stacks too expensive. I would add Forskolii to those stacks for the cAMP enhancing effect. And you need to change up these stacks every few weeks to something quite different to keep strong effects going. You especially need to change up A.I.'s after a long run of a few months, then you can keep the strong effects going almost indefinitely. You also need to be careful with the amount of these A.I.'s to use in long runs. Plus the effects of these stacks can be increased greatly by an optimal diet for anabolic effect, which is usually far from the diet people think works well. And then there's nutrient partitioners and truly eating BIG to maximize natural anabolism.


Both the divanex and the fadogia are way under dosed in the HCGenerate product. About 1200 mgs of divanex is optimal and 2 grams of fadogia, but it is still a great product.
 
JudgementDay said:
Best natural test combo IMO is Testopro, T-force and Formestane combo OR HCGenerate and Formestane. HCGenerate I believe is the best all around T-booster out there, 1 Gram of Testofen, 1 gram of Fadogia Agrestis, 500 mg's of 3,4 Divanillyltetrahydrofuran, 500mgs of Bulgarian Tribulus Terrestre and 100mgs of LJ:100. A natty Test booster don't get better then that lol IMO
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So this saved me from having to start a new thread. I am seriously considering adding Testopro to my next bottle of HGHup (I am just about finished with my first solo run of HGHup). I have never taken a test booster before, and I know Testopro is natural, but I still worry about sides when it is finished. Will I need to take an AI when finished? Should I taper down my usage towards the end of the bottle? Any advice will be appreciated.
 
bikeswimlive said:
So this saved me from having to start a new thread. I am seriously considering adding Testopro to my next bottle of HGHup (I am just about finished with my first solo run of HGHup). I have never taken a test booster before, and I know Testopro is natural, but I still worry about sides when it is finished. Will I need to take an AI when finished? Should I taper down my usage towards the end of the bottle? Any advice will be appreciated.
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No, natural test is not a steroid or prohormone, and if you're smart you can keep the effects going most of the year.
 
tuberman said:
No, natural test is not a steroid or prohormone, and if you're smart you can keep the effects going most of the year.
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I realize it isn't a PH, but don't you have to worry about elevated test aromatizing into estrogen (T+A=E)?

Also please explain, "if you're smart you can keep the effects going most of the year."
 
bikeswimlive said:
I realize it isn't a PH, but don't you have to worry about elevated test aromatizing into estrogen (T+A=E)?

Also please explain, "if you're smart you can keep the effects going most of the year."
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To the best of my understanding, TestoPro doesn't actually increase your total testosterone levels in your body. It doesn't cause your body to produce more testosterone. It works by freeing up testosterone already in your body that is bound by the sex-hormone binding globulin. Basically it allows what's already in your body to do more work than it normally can.
 
tuberman said:
Judgement,

Ok. those are great STACKS, but they are stacks, and cover wide areas of test boosting leaving little to be left out. Many will find paying for whole stacks too expensive. I would add Forskolii to those stacks for the cAMP enhancing effect. And you need to change up these stacks every few weeks to something quite different to keep strong effects going. You especially need to change up A.I.'s after a long run of a few months, then you can keep the strong effects going almost indefinitely. You also need to be careful with the amount of these A.I.'s to use in long runs. Plus the effects of these stacks can be increased greatly by an optimal diet for anabolic effect, which is usually far from the diet people think works well. And then there's nutrient partitioners and truly eating BIG to maximize natural anabolism.


Both the divanex and the fadogia are way under dosed in the HCGenerate product. About 1200 mgs of divanex is optimal and 2 grams of fadogia, but it is still a great product.
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I agree that HCGenerate is underdoesed a bit with 5 caps, but thats why I will be taking 10 caps a day lol
 
JudgementDay said:
I agree that HCGenerate is underdoesed a bit with 5 caps, but thats why I will be taking 10 caps a day lol
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man with too much money, lol. i think you could probably buy both hghup and testopro for the price of hcghenerate.:dunno: $75 is crazy.
 
thebigt said:
man with too much money, lol. i think you could probably buy both hghup and testopro for the price of hcghenerate.:dunno: $75 is crazy.
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It's $64 and with the 15% off coupon it's only $55. When I do the 30 days I will be doing 10 caps a day, so it's gonna be $110 but thats 4 caps worth of T-force, 2 and a half caps of Divanex and you would have to have 14 caps of TestoPro to add up the same amount of Testofen( 2 grams!). Plus extra goods like longjack and trib in it:D

I will be logging it June 1st, I'll let ya know how it goes, but I got 6 days of HCGenerate samples I'm adding in with the TestoPro and T-force Combo, it's been 2 days and the pre-workout feeling of 5 caps is insain!
 
bikeswimlive said:
I realize it isn't a PH, but don't you have to worry about elevated test aromatizing into estrogen (T+A=E)?

Also please explain, "if you're smart you can keep the effects going most of the year."
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Well, formestane as Judgement suggested, is an anti-E. You need to keep the doses of various anti-E's fairly low or after a number of weeks they will start to shut you down instead of enhancing test. And, bikes, there are quite a few good to great "test boosters" available today and you can choose a second stack that acts in a different way from your initial stack and simply trade off after about 8 weeks or so, then trade back after another 6-8 weeks, or find a good third stack.... and so on.....aND SO ON. You should also switch out anti-E's every so often or switch to D.I.M. Test is good for you, and very healthy for the most part. Improve this more with a diet designed to lay a great foundation, add intense workouts that are optimal for your goals, and you will have created a WOW effect that will have everyone swearing that you're a juicer when you are on a totally healthy path. No, need for 2 steps forward and 1 step back.
 
danieltx13 said:
To the best of my understanding, TestoPro doesn't actually increase your total testosterone levels in your body. It doesn't cause your body to produce more testosterone. It works by freeing up testosterone already in your body that is bound by the sex-hormone binding globulin. Basically it allows what's already in your body to do more work than it normally can.
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Yep, correct for the most part, except that the actions of testofen are not quite certain -- it seems to mimick test a bit and also has some nutrient partioning effects in combination, but it does not add to TOTAL test. Fadogia does that pretty well.
Divanex frees test from binding in testopro.
 
JudgementDay said:
It's $64 and with the 15% off coupon it's only $55. When I do the 30 days I will be doing 10 caps a day, so it's gonna be $110 but thats 4 caps worth of T-force, 2 and a half caps of Divanex and you would have to have 14 caps of TestoPro to add up the same amount of Testofen( 2 grams!). Plus extra goods like longjack and trib in it:D

I will be logging it June 1st, I'll let ya know how it goes, but I got 6 days of HCGenerate samples I'm adding in with the TestoPro and T-force Combo, it's been 2 days and the pre-workout feeling of 5 caps is insain!
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geez bro, the cost of your cycles are way too much for my budget, lol.
fortunately 200mg weekly of test cyp costs me $8 for 2 months.:dunno:
 
thebigt said:
geez bro, the cost of your cycles are way too much for my budget, lol.
fortunately 200mg weekly of test cyp costs me $8 for 2 months.:dunno:
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AHAHA always bragging about your test cyp LOL, I would be too lol, as if $8! Lucky you!!!

Ya it's $$ for supplements, I will prob only run a 2-3 month stack once a year after this summer, but one supplement I might be addicted to is N2KTS Pre-workout:O if you like a good pre-workout drink then you would love this, best Pre-workout I have ever tried.
 
JudgementDay said:
AHAHA always bragging about your test cyp LOL, I would be too lol, as if $8! Lucky you!!!

Ya it's $$ for supplements, I will prob only run a 2-3 month stack once a year after this summer, but one supplement I might be addicted to is N2KTS Pre-workout:O if you like a good pre-workout drink then you would love this, best Pre-workout I have ever tried.
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since i am repping for axis now, i will probably run smash/hemodraulix next. i checked on n2kts and was surprised to find it for $42-expected it to be around $70 as their stuff tends to be rather expensive.
 
thebigt said:
since i am repping for axis now, i will probably run smash/hemodraulix next. i checked on n2kts and was surprised to find it for $42-expected it to be around $70 as their stuff tends to be rather expensive.
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Plus - 15% off Coupon it's only $35 which is pretty good, plus the feeling of this stuff is WOW.
 
JudgementDay said:
Plus - 15% off Coupon it's only $35 which is pretty good, plus the feeling of this stuff is WOW.
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hahaha, i believe you. it seems supp companies are getting better at pre workout mixes. a lot of good ones out right now.
 
JudgementDay said:
It's $64 and with the 15% off coupon it's only $55. When I do the 30 days I will be doing 10 caps a day, so it's gonna be $110 but thats 4 caps worth of T-force, 2 and a half caps of Divanex and you would have to have 14 caps of TestoPro to add up the same amount of Testofen( 2 grams!). Plus extra goods like longjack and trib in it:D

I will be logging it June 1st, I'll let ya know how it goes, but I got 6 days of HCGenerate samples I'm adding in with the TestoPro and T-force Combo, it's been 2 days and the pre-workout feeling of 5 caps is insain!
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excellent breakdown on the HCGenerate profile!

Most guys just dont understand exactly what they are getting in HCGenerate compared to whats currently out there for less monies.

I still havent exceeded 6 caps of HCGenerate ED. Crazy stacked with a low dosed forma and sustain alpha.

the next best stack i have ran to that would be the superman stack-

Only thing better than those would be test, imo.

Dont even get me started on N2KTS. Top of the line prewo that is OOS right now. :(
 
lotta love for hcgenerate i may have to try it. ive had good result with a few other herbal test boosters like DTH,DT2010,Tforce and Phytotest so i may respond well:)
 
flightposite said:
lotta love for hcgenerate i may have to try it. ive had good result with a few other herbal test boosters like DTH,DT2010,Tforce and Phytotest so i may respond well:)
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Yeah give it go, it wont disappoint.

I like DTH for sure. I liked both 120's and 240's. You try the newest version yet? 200 tabs?

Never got a chance to run 2010 or Phyto.

Had some t-force awhile back but traded it:(
 
Kristofer68SS said:
Yeah give it go, it wont disappoint.

I like DTH for sure. I liked both 120's and 240's. You try the newest version yet? 200 tabs?

Never got a chance to run 2010 or Phyto.

Had some t-force awhile back but traded it:(
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no i havent got to try the new ones yet still got alittle bit of the old ones to use lol. but as for the 2010 i really liked it maybe alittle better than the hardcore i wish they kept it around. and phyto and tforce are real good stuff aswell. i really like the simplicity of tforce and phyto test and tforce is price fair:) and thats always a plus.
 
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