Can somebody give me some information on Fenugreek. Like, what it does? What is it used for? What are the benefits? What are the side effects? WHat is the best dosage? Do you need to cycle it? Does it work synergistically with any other supplements? Thank You

It makes ya shoot massive loads while sweating maple syrup!!!

while yes it does smell like mape syrup, it is marketed as mimicking testosterone! its great stuff i jsut finished my bottle of phytotest, read up on the article and you can learn more aobut it http://www.primordialperformance.com...tosterone.html

What is Phyto-Testosterone?

Phyto-Testosterone is a complex of plant extracts including fenugreek; that mimic & amplify the action of testosterone to make harder muscles, stronger muscles and bigger muscles. At the average dose, Phyto-Testosterone will last 30 days.

Perhaps you have heard of the natural plant flavones known as "phyto-estrogens" or the nasty man-made synthetic chemicals known as "xeno-estrogens". Essentially, these are chemicals that act like estrogen in our bodies. Some of these compounds (especially the xeno-estrogens) can cause unwanted side-effects such as breast tissue growth, impotence, and an overall fat & flabby appearance. What's worse, is that these estrogen mimicking compounds are found virtually everywhere, including our food, water, plastics, and even our soap and shampoo. The point is, it's almost impossible to totally avoid these estrogenic elements, so we simply have to deal with the fact that they play a role in our bodies.

So the question remains, where is Mother Nature's balance to these estrogenic compounds? Where are the compounds that act like testosterone in our bodies?

That is exactly what we have brought you, a completely legal, natural and scientifically proven complex that supports lean muscle growth, rather than breast growth. Phyto-Testosterone is truly man's best friend.

Consider Phyto-Testosterone our non-steroidial muscle building supplement that will produce solid gains in lean muscle mass relatively quickly; especially when combined with ample protein intake. Plus, it will stack well with our other supplements, including Dermacrine and Sustain Alpha for a synergistic effect.

What results should I expect from Phyto-Testosterone?

When combined with proper diet & exercise, Phyto-Testosterone can offer the following benefits -

•An 8-10lb gain of lean muscle *
•Increased strength & stamina
•Improved muscular hardness & density
•Reduction in body fat
•Ravenous appetite for food
* For best results, consume at least 1-2gm of protein per lb of body weight. This will ensure that you have adequate amino acid levels for increased muscle growth.

What are the ingredients & how does it work?

The first ingredient is a specific fenugreek seed extraction, standardized for 50% Fenusides (aka, Testofen™). In a study with castrated animals this ingredient supported muscle and male sex organ growth just as much as testosterone normally would, essentially showing that it can mimic the effects of testosterone. (1) Other research with male athletes (ages 18-35) showed that 600mg/day of Fenuside extract for 8 weeks dramatically reduced fat tissue while increasing lean muscle. These effects were accomplished without any detrimental side effects typically related to the use of anabolic steroids, such as gynecomastia, high blood pressure, or liver damage. (2)

The second ingredient in Phyto-Testosterone is a clinically effective dose of methoxyisoflavone (5-methyl-7-methoxy Isoflavone). This was invented and patented in the 1970's as a muscle building plant flavone that could be used as a legal steroid alternative for humans and animals.(3) Just check out a quote straight from the patent by Feuer et al -

"On examining the data of the analysis of body weight it was found that the weight increase of the muscle tissue was specifically greater than that of the fat tissue, and that fat content of the muscle tissue decreased, while that of proteins rose."

And further stating...

"We succeeded in partially suppressing the catabolic effect of cortisone with these compounds, and proved that identical doses of anabolic steroids do not exert anabolic effects stronger than that of the invented compounds."

In other words, methoxyisoflavone increased lean muscle gain comparable to that of anabolic steroids, but without any estrogenic or toxic side effects. (4,8) Interpreting studies and results of related flavones, it appears that the mechanism of methoxyisoflavone's anabolic action is by suppression of cortisol, thus preventing the catabolic breakdown of muscle. (6) It also appears that methoxyisoflavone may positively augment the action of testosterone and estrogen. More specifically it's been hypothesized that when high levels of testosterone are present, methoxyisoflavone will amplify the anabolic effects. (5,7) Therefore, methoxyisoflavones muscle building & fat burning effects can be attributed to potentiating anabolic effects of other hormones, while decreasing the catabolic effects.

How is Phyto-Testosterone better than other related products?

With Phyto-Testosterone, you have a unique synergy. You have Fenuside with its testosterone mimicking effects, and methoxyisoflavone with its testosterone potentiating effects. Plus, we've included a clinically effective dose of each ingredient, ensuring that you are getting the real deal, instead of some diluted "catch all" concoction.

Phyto-Testosterone is also a welcome alternative to many pro-steroids on the market that can be highly suppressive to the body's natural testosterone production, as well as potentially being highly liver toxic. On top of this, Phyto-Testosterone poses no risk of showing positive on a drug test, since none of the ingredients are banned by the NCAA or other major athletic organizations.

Does Phyto-Testosterone have any side effects?

The safety profile of these active ingredients have been well established over the years with various human clinical trials. There have been no documented side effects with either ingredient in the formula. (1-4) The only "side-effect" that may accompany the product is an increase in appetite, due to increased protein retention. So, take advantage of this and increase your protein intake!

Also, keep in mind that Phyto-Testosterone is intended to be cycled to keep the body's hormone receptors sensitive to the effects. We currently recommend that Phyto-Testosterone be used for a maximum of 8 weeks, with at least 4 weeks off between each use

i used just basic fenugreek and maca for a few weeks and didnt really feel like i noticed anything.

Originally Posted by srocco112

i used just basic fenugreek and maca for a few weeks and didnt really feel like i noticed anything.

Use more. You'll sweat syrup and shoot LOADS.

how many grams per day, at what time of day do you suggest?

Go ahead and use more if u want to grow boobs and breast feed babies. You guys need to get your information straight, fenugreek WILL CAUSE GYNO. The ingredient in these test boosters are an extract of fenugreek called testofen not fenugreek itself which has a totally different effect.

Originally Posted by superfreak

Go ahead and use more if u want to grow boobs and breast feed babies. You guys need to get your information straight, fenugreek WILL CAUSE GYNO. The ingredient in these test boosters are an extract of fenugreek called testofen not fenugreek itself which has a totally different effect.

Was just gonna talk about the Testofen.

I wouldn't supplement with Fenugreek if I were you, I would supplement with the Testofen extract of Fenugreek. That seems to have some great reviews.

What would be the best way to take Fenugreek

Originally Posted by Z28Luver7777

What would be the best way to take Fenugreek

suppository

So do u actually think with a supplement like this one(Trigonella foenum-graecum= Fenugreek)is there a change for me to get gyno?

Amount per 1 Capsule
Extracts equivalent to dry:
Puncture Vine (Tribulus terrestris) 5000mg
Trigonella foenum-graecum 2500mg
Dioscorea opposita 1000mg
Macuna Pruriens 1000mg
Omega 3 Fish Oil (18/12) 750mg
Supplying not less than 225mg Omega 3 polyunsaturates:
EPA (Eicosapentaenoic Acid) 135mg
DHA (Docosahexaenoic Acid) 90mg
Natural Vitamin E 5 mg



Inactive Ingredients: Gelatin (Halal Certified), Glycerin, Vegetable Oil, Bee's Wax Yellow, Purified Water, Colours

I would just go with Primordial Performances Phyto-Test. It contains Testofen.

Is Phyto-test as good as PP claims it can be 8-10lbs of gain on it?

Fenugreek will not necessarily cause gyno. It's really irrelevant that it is used in bunk products that are marketed toward female breast enhancement. On women's forums are there posters claiming zomg TRIBULUS grew my clit!!

I've used it before, for a few days before a 'big weekend' with the lady, and it def increased volume. I took 1-2 g/day IIRC, but I only ever used it for about a week. I've heard its effects wear off quickly, so I rec only using it for a big event. Load a few days and then shoot some big loads for a few days. It's about 5 dollars for a bottle that could last months. What's to lose?

Whats the best dosage of Testofen? And, how do you cycle it?