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    I got a little question is good use Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) in low carb diets?



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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    Hello



    I got a little question is good use Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) in low carb diets?



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    It will help keep you in ketosis, if that is what you are going for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCnate View Post
    It will help keep you in ketosis, if that is what you are going for.
    what type of dosing does one need to achieve this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCnate View Post
    It will help keep you in ketosis, if that is what you are going for.
    Na R-Alpha Lipoic Acid and this type is more bioaviable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    Na R-Alpha Lipoic Acid and this type is more bioaviable?
    that is correct
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    can any one explain WHY and HOW it will keep you in ketosis?
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    maybe "push nutrients (carbs)" in to the muscles not turns in fat?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    maybe "push nutrients (carbs)" in to the muscles not turns in fat?????
    Well it iss also part of Glycobol which looks to be a pretty amazing product so I'm also very intrigued. This is what the AI write up has to say about it:

    Sodium R-Lipoate (Na-r-ALA)
    ALA is naturally produced in the body as a mitochondrial enzyme cofactor. It is important to aerobic metabolism. ALA has been suggested to increase cellular uptake of glucose to cell membranes by recruiting the glucose transporter GLUT4. ALA improves skeletal muscle glucose transport, resulting in desirable blood glucose disposal and increased muscle glycogen concentrations. (1) Studies also suggest that in muscle, ALA is a potent anti-oxidant which protects cells from oxidative stress-induced insulin resistance. (2) The ALA used in this formula is chemically stabilized and of the highest quality. It's one of the most active isomers and one of the highest potency salts commercially available. ALA is an invaluable addition that offers a multitude of benefits plus countless extras for any serious athlete.

    Bottom Line: Best way to describe this effect is that it almost adds a filter to the muscle fibers; Taking in what it needs to prepare for growth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    Na R-Alpha Lipoic Acid and this type is more bioaviable?
    Correct, and you get the beneficial R entaniomer, instead of a mix of both, where the S has been shown to negate some of the benefits of the R.

    Glycobol has a nice dose of Na-RALA.

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    Thanks I kinda thought thats what nutrient partioning was about. The metabolism of glucose passes through two routes one to glycogen (muscle) one to fat. Partitioning shifts the switch.

    Data would be nice.

    I used/use Anabolic Pump.

    Glycobol does have a growing fan base - there are some sides though.
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    what sides are we talking about here?
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    ww.nutraplanet.com/product/nutraplanet/na-rala-capsules-90-caps.html

    If you look it says "Do not take on a low carb diet" ? Hmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violator4200 View Post
    ww.nutraplanet.com/product/nutraplanet/na-rala-capsules-90-caps.html

    If you look it says "Do not take on a low carb diet" ? Hmmm
    Is an Powerful Antioxidant too so i need to take
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    It also helps push me into ketosis much faster on a low carb diet. To do this though, I usually have to take 2,000 - 3,000mg / day..
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    Quote Originally Posted by legalizejuice View Post
    what sides are we talking about here?
    Glycobol sides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violator4200 View Post
    ww.nutraplanet.com/product/nutraplanet/na-rala-capsules-90-caps.html

    If you look it says "Do not take on a low carb diet" ? Hmmm
    Low carb = low blood sugar

    It can, and probably will bring your current levels lower. I tried taking my homemade glucose disposal agent before a meal once, and I started getting the shakes and dizziness.
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    Its a potent means of cutting - you're keeping glucose out of the blood stream - but I'm uncertain whether burning protein instead of carb .... muscle protein ?
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    I've been reading more and more that ALA taken with creatine, enhances the absorption of the creatine.
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    It doesn't keep glucose out of the bloodstream. ALA, and it's many forms, help to increase the sensitivity of the receptors to insulin ad leads to less insulin being released. Insulin, while it is anabolic, can be detrimental to a physique because it may channel nutrients toward fat cells instead of muscle cells (depending on the environment and GLUT receptors activated).
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    So is this stuff NOT ok to use on a TKD diet??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    It doesn't keep glucose out of the bloodstream. ALA, and it's many forms, help to increase the sensitivity of the receptors to insulin ad leads to less insulin being released. Insulin, while it is anabolic, can be detrimental to a physique because it may channel nutrients toward fat cells instead of muscle cells (depending on the environment and GLUT receptors activated).
    then as I can be sure that pushes nutrients into muscle cells and not to fat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    then as I can be sure that pushes nutrients into muscle cells and not to fat?

    Through GLUT-4 activation. However, this is generally only stimulated by exercise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Through GLUT-4 activation. However, this is generally only stimulated by exercise.
    DAMN IT i down 100mg NaR-ALA and 400mg Gymnema Sylvestre Leaf Extract (25% Gymnemic Acid = 100 mg) before eat my lunch 50g of complex carbs
    and i go to train 6 hours later in this lapse of time all of the carbs is converted in FAT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    DAMN IT i down 100mg NaR-ALA and 400mg Gymnema Sylvestre Leaf Extract (25% Gymnemic Acid = 100 mg) before eat my lunch 50g of complex carbs
    and i go to train 6 hours later in this lapse of time all of the carbs is converted in FAT?
    Stop making this so complicated. Carbs are not converted to fat just because GLUT-4 is not activated. There are incalculable factors that go into metabolism that is beyond my knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Stop making this so complicated. Carbs are not converted to fat just because GLUT-4 is not activated. There are incalculable factors that go into metabolism that is beyond my knowledge.
    You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Rodja again.
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    BURNED! LOL but is this or Ra-Ala not god to use with this TKD im on?? Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violator4200 View Post
    BURNED! LOL but is this or Ra-Ala not god to use with this TKD im on?? Thanks
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