whats your favorite protien shake?
02-28-2003 05:27 PM
I agree with the simply protein by EAS as well as 100% Optimum.
03-01-2003 12:30 AM
Wow ironviking, then i guess that's my next protein to try for sure , thanks!! Sage let me know how ti goes with straw and vanilla.
03-01-2003 06:38 AM
03-04-2003 07:33 PM
I'm hearing lots of guys saying muscle milk is the **** and tastes great, but is it a quality protein powder worth it's price?
03-04-2003 08:01 PM
ive always gone for bulk protein (5 lb plus) and casein from milk/cottage cheese for my longer digesting protein source. However, for 19 a can, its really not ridiculous. 15 servings..divide the serving into 1 sccop (not 2) and mix in a similar flavor of the cheaper whey (simply, opt, etc) and you get 30 uses for 19 bones. Sage Originally posted by gh0stface killa I'm hearing lots of guys saying muscle milk is the **** and tastes great, but is it a quality protein powder worth it's price?
03-04-2003 08:24 PM
hey, you mean half of one protein and the other half of another? is that what u mean? Originally posted by sage
ive always gone for bulk protein (5 lb plus) and casein from milk/cottage cheese for my longer digesting protein source. However, for 19 a can, its really not ridiculous. 15 servings..divide the serving into 1 sccop (not 2) and mix in a similar flavor of the cheaper whey (simply, opt, etc) and you get 30 uses for 19 bones. Sage
03-05-2003 12:42 AM
I believe thats what he means. I think im going to pick up a bottle of the musclemilk and a bottle of opti. pro complex.
03-05-2003 12:43 AM
Cheapest prices for supplements i've seen on the net so far are from WWW.massnutrition.com Anyone know of any sites that sell supplements ever cheaper?
03-05-2003 07:16 AM
we have an entire thread dedicated to this question. Originally posted by gh0stface killa Cheapest prices for supplements i've seen on the net so far are from WWW.massnutrition.com Anyone know of any sites that sell supplements ever cheaper?
and conceptions, ya thats what i meant. Having a half serving of MM with a half serving of another protein (i use simply whey) taste exactly the same as the whole serving of MM so why not extend out the tub you have. mixing however, is tougher for some flavors than others (ie blueberry, cookies&cream, banana, mocha) but add choc or van and you're still aight. choc with the mocha and C&C, vanilla with blueberry and banana. as for strictly muslce milk, massnutrition is great (overall) and !19.95 is one of the best, there is another place for 19.49....i believe thats musclemagnepa. Sage
03-05-2003 11:19 AM
I use MM nutrition high 5 (blended protein) 26 gs a scoop & carbo max 58 gs 1/2 cp. for my weight gainer. The carbomax is $26 for 10lbs., and mixes up pretty well. I will be switching back to Optimum soon for price reasons only. Best bang for the buck has to be Optimum. I would really like to find a good solid Whey Isolate for cheap money though, but all of my attempts at that have failed. At 3-4 shakes a day it adds up quickly.
03-05-2003 04:50 PM
I see a lot of you guys are taking the muscle milk.. just bought a bottle of banana creme today and its the best tasting protein shake i've tasted. But the 18 grams of fat and 8 grams saturated per serving is a bit high..Anyone get good gains from muscle milk?
03-05-2003 05:36 PM
good gains? yes. fat per serving high? depends on what you want out of your shake... it ain't 100% whey ya know... casein, a little colostrum and other **** with MCT's, etc... gotta consider how you'll use it... like I said I mainly use it with milk and sometimes ground oats preworkout as it is lighter in my gut than actual food, and gives me noticable increases in endurance and energy during workout... fat is goo fo youu
03-05-2003 08:00 PM
got my new order of strawberry and vanilla musclemilk in tonight. had a half-a-serving with my dinner. strawberry is ridiculous. Sage
03-05-2003 09:09 PM
Originally posted by gh0stface killa I see a lot of you guys are taking the muscle milk.. just bought a bottle of banana creme today and its the best tasting protein shake i've tasted. But the 18 grams of fat and 8 grams saturated per serving is a bit high..Anyone get good gains from muscle milk?
Holy ****, no wonder it tastes so good, 8 grams of saturated fat? Christ, might as well have some BK.
03-05-2003 09:18 PM
Joe, don't take this as a flame, but there is no such thing as a good weight gainer. Originally posted by bigliftsCNU my favorite whey protein powder is optimum 100%
n-large2 is a great weight gainer.. good amino acid profile, not loaded with sugar, good ratio of fats, protein, and carbs, has healthy fats, and good cholestoral.
One serving of N-Large 2 contains 52 grams protein, and 89 grams carbs, but only lists 23 of those grams carbs as sugar. The rest are simply maltodextrin, which is is sugar spelled sideways. Malto is 130 on the GI scale. It's considered a complex carb but has a higher spike than Dextrose, and acts just like sugar in the body. So the sugars far outweigh the protein, and I'm sure many young guys with incredibly fast metabolism see huge size gains off this product. But the same guys would see every bit as much muscle, minus the fat, if they were to stick with a high grade of blended protein, like Optimum Complete Protein Diet, or Max Muscle's High 5, and got all their carbs from whole food.
And last but not least, weight gainers usually have the lowest available grade of cheap ass whey concentrate as their main protein source. If you must use a gainer, the one formulated by YellowJacket is the best one I have seen.
03-05-2003 09:28 PM
BTW, My favorite proteins are in this order, ranked by quality, as taste isn't why I drink a protein shake:
1.Beverly Ultra Size
2. Beverly Muscle Provider
3. Biotest Low Carb Grow
4. Optimum Complete Protein Diet, which is my main source of protein powder, since the first 3 are cost prohibitive
I also love Lean Mass Matrix, but too many carbs for me, even though they ARE good complex carbs. this would be the closest thing I have seen to a good commercially available weight gainer.
03-05-2003 10:00 PM
I think John Benz's advice is sound. I, too, don't have a high opinion of N-Large primarily because of the high simple carb content. The only thing I would add is that EAS has a new Myoplex formula that is supposedly along the lines of Lean Mass Matrix. I haven't yet tasted it. EAS usually puts out reasonably-priced products.
03-05-2003 10:21 PM
John Benz I have a question for you regarding the Maltodextrin. Wouldn't a (MRP) like N-Large2 even if it contains malto, if added with protein and fat , would lower the GI of the food while entering the bloodstream thus not really being that fat sugar wise ? I hope I explained myself good enought.
03-05-2003 10:39 PM
Raul, you may be able to slow the digestion of whey protein by adding some additional fat, but nothing will slow the apsorption of malto, no matter what you add to the mix. Even if 89 gms were necessary for a proper insulin spike (which they are not), where does 89 gms of sugar go after it helps you spike? Right around your waistline, that's where! Originally posted by RaulJimenez John Benz I have a question for you regarding the Maltodextrin. Wouldn't a (MRP) like N-Large2 even if it contains malto, if added with protein and fat , would lower the GI of the food while entering the bloodstream thus not really being that fat sugar wise ? I hope I explained myself good enought.
BTW, if you were going to add fats and protein to an expensive gainer, why not just make your own?
03-05-2003 11:10 PM
yeh, the idea that you can take carbs like malto (and minor amounts of fructo in this case as well) with some whey, recommend 50g protein and 90g carb per serving and call it a weight gainer is a funny idea... people mistake that for MRP also, which as we can see it certainly isn't... it does meet and exceed label claims and is simple stuff so if you already have some, do yourself a favor and mix some real 100% whey with a half "serving" of nlarge post workout only... the only real mistake with these kinds of supps is that they take advantage of the fact that most average GNC shoppers see malto, see the explanation about it's complex carb designation, and think they're getting essentially the opposite of what they pay for
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