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    HGH Up VS. Somnidren-GH


    I'm wondering if anybody on AM has used both of these products and if they'd be able to determine which is the more beneficial, and cost-efficient product. I'm interested in including one of them in an upcoming cycle. It'd also help if the board reps for AN and MST could chime in.

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    Personally, I really like them both and would have a tough time choosing. Somnidren is incredible for sleep, but I do think HGH-Up has a slight edge in terms of GH boost. They both work well, but I felt like I had a more intense GH boost with HGHup. Hard to say without some pretty expensive testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimboBatista View Post
    I'm wondering if anybody on AM has used both of these products and if they'd be able to determine which is the more beneficial, and cost-efficient product. I'm interested in including one of them in an upcoming cycle. It'd also help if the board reps for AN and MST could chime in.
    I took Somnidren-GH as a sleep aid - notice greatly improved sleep quality and moderate wieghtloss
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    if you can define "beneficial" then I can answer it better. For putting you to sleep faster i'd give the edge to Somnidren, for dream quality HGHUp. HGHUp also provides noticeable libido increases, and noticeable strength increases as well even on a slight caloric deficit. I'd say I probably had less next day soreness on Somnidren, but then again I was doing a totally different workout style then so I'm not sure its an accurate comparison.
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    Best Combo I've used for putting me to sleep fast is 2 caps of Carboxy and 1 and a half scoops of Bullet Proof.

    But for feeling good in the morning on a 5 hour sleep and feeling 100% goes to HGH UP, best HGH product I've used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    if you can define "beneficial" then I can answer it better. For putting you to sleep faster i'd give the edge to Somnidren, for dream quality HGHUp. HGHUp also provides noticeable libido increases, and noticeable strength increases as well even on a slight caloric deficit. I'd say I probably had less next day soreness on Somnidren, but then again I was doing a totally different workout style then so I'm not sure its an accurate comparison.
    Well, my next cycle is gonna be mostly for mass gain. I'm probably gonna be using Sust 350 and M-Drol. All the posters, including yourself, gave me some of the answers I was looking for and now just have to balance the benefits of each product. I've only ever sampled Somnidren. I was wondering which would be more beneficial to include in my cycle to experience any potential fat loss, increased libido, faster recovery, increase in strength, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimboBatista View Post
    Well, my next cycle is gonna be mostly for mass gain. I'm probably gonna be using Sust 350 and M-Drol. All the posters, including yourself, gave me some of the answers I was looking for and now just have to balance the benefits of each product. I've only ever sampled Somnidren. I was wondering which would be more beneficial to include in my cycle to experience any potential fat loss, increased libido, faster recovery, increase in strength, etc.
    Based on your goals- HGH-Up- many people who have taken it have noted good strength gains, increased lean body mass, and better recovery.....
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    I would wait a bit, as we have tweaked the formula to be a bit more effective for the somnidren, but I haven't taken HGHup to offer any comparison
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnatural View Post
    I would wait a bit, as we have tweaked the formula to be a bit more effective for the somnidren, but I haven't taken HGHup to offer any comparison
    Sooo you're saying there is going to be a new formulation of Somnidren then? If so, when will it be released and here for purchase on the planet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ws65 View Post
    Sooo you're saying there is going to be a new formulation of Somnidren then? If so, when will it be released and here for purchase on the planet?
    it will be available within the next week or so, and will be at NP immediately thereafter. If you look at Bnat's sig you will see a coupon code for our site if you simply can't wait for it to hit NP.

    I have never used HGHup so I couldn't give a fair comparison...but with the dozen or so sleep products i've used as well as the 4-5 GH release products i've used....Somnidren easily puts the rest behind it. Anything i've used that even comes remotely close, also has enough in it to become habit forming...which S-GH does not. It also has 0 carbohydrates to avoid from blunting GH release and a convinient sublingual dosing (or liquid if you prefer)
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    one of the trainers in my gym ran hgh up with gamma-o and he made fantastic gains in size and definition. He is now beginning to lean down and the size is ridiculous, but he is also getting the definition he wants
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    I'm waiting for the new version as it should really promote a better GH release pre-workout, it has a higher grade in it, a 99% pure form
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    How will I know that the Somnidren on Nutraplanet is the new formula? They do have it back in stock so just wondering.....it's been a week since 1/4
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    Quote Originally Posted by rottie76 View Post
    How will I know that the Somnidren on Nutraplanet is the new formula? They do have it back in stock so just wondering.....it's been a week since 1/4
    The new S-GH is in our warehouse NOW...but I don't believe it's hit NP just yet. Let me check on that for you.
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    So the only difference is that the new formula has Mucuna Pruriens extract standardized to 90% L-Dopa as opposed to 20% like it was in the old formula? Sorry to be so ignorant but how's that supposed to make it more effective? Thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rottie76 View Post
    So the only difference is that the new formula has Mucuna Pruriens extract standardized to 90% L-Dopa as opposed to 20% like it was in the old formula? Sorry to be so ignorant but how's that supposed to make it more effective? Thank you!
    yeah...why would something that is 70% more pure and active which has direct correlation to dopamine, norepinepherine, and epinephrine be more effecive than before...

    I'm sorry if you were geniuinely asking a simple question there...but it came off to me as snide and you thinking that "just" changing the purity of the Mucuna Pruriens would have any effects on the product. The fact being that the change will not only bring much better results for your GH boost and sleep in general, but also for your lucid dreaming, sexual function, and libido.

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    Don't talk bad about CT's L-Dopa...he gets a little crazy.
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    as far as i was told it was 99% pure, maybe i misread, but yes that was the only real tweak. its hard to overhaul an effective product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    yeah...why would something that is 70% more pure and active which has direct correlation to dopamine, norepinepherine, and epinephrine be more effecive than before...
    Please answer that question, because if its the same net amount of l-dopa in in as before, I don't understand why the 90% vs 20% would make a difference. If before it was 2.5 grams of 20% for .5 gram net l-dopa, and now its .56g of 90% for .5g net l-dopa the effect would be the same, just a smaller scoop.

    If its a higher dose of l-dopa then yeah, thats going to have effect, but in a powder product changing the % of extract alone doesn't make much difference if the net amount is the same. It matters in capsules, because it gives you more space to include other ingredients.

    So is the net amount of l-dopa higher?
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    I just ordered some HGH up! Ive used Powerfull twice. Ill let you guys know how it goes. I'm fixin to be on to take some HGH up so Ill give you guys my opinion of those two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Please answer that question, because if its the same net amount of l-dopa in in as before, I don't understand why the 90% vs 20% would make a difference. If before it was 2.5 grams of 20% for .5 gram net l-dopa, and now its .56g of 90% for .5g net l-dopa the effect would be the same, just a smaller scoop.

    If its a higher dose of l-dopa then yeah, thats going to have effect, but in a powder product changing the % of extract alone doesn't make much difference if the net amount is the same. It matters in capsules, because it gives you more space to include other ingredients.

    So is the net amount of l-dopa higher?
    The net amount is higher and we've found it helps with some of the clumping issues as well. As far as I was told and as far as I've seen in the labels we didn't reduce the amount of mucuna pruriens. Where did you see that the amount of it had been reduced?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnatural View Post
    The net amount is higher and we've found it helps with some of the clumping issues as well. As far as I was told and as far as I've seen in the labels we didn't reduce the amount of mucuna pruriens. Where did you see that the amount of it had been reduced?
    well, the label is "proprietary blend" so its hard to tell whether the amount did go down or left unchanged.. From all of our products being capsules, thats why I asked as we've gone to higher % extracts, but left the net dose the same just to either be able to add more ingredients or reduce cap size.

    Should be nice with a higher l-dopa content, and dosing it as 5 on 2 off should help avoid any desensitization, which you need for the GABA anyhow. I'll have to pick up a tub to try once they are in at NP.
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    Haven't used HGH up yet, but have it sitting on the shelf. I can comment on the MST stuff, got great results with and would run it again. Got 2 tubs of it and 2 bottles of ZMK for the coming months. Did exactly what the label and reps said it would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    well, the label is "proprietary blend" so its hard to tell whether the amount did go down or left unchanged.. From all of our products being capsules, thats why I asked as we've gone to higher % extracts, but left the net dose the same just to either be able to add more ingredients or reduce cap size.

    Should be nice with a higher l-dopa content, and dosing it as 5 on 2 off should help avoid any desensitization, which you need for the GABA anyhow. I'll have to pick up a tub to try once they are in at NP.
    Ya, as far as I was told the amount of mp was not changed, just the % of the extract. Good call on the dosing scheme, I usually dose on workout days only, 3on/1off
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Please answer that question, because if its the same net amount of l-dopa in in as before, I don't understand why the 90% vs 20% would make a difference. If before it was 2.5 grams of 20% for .5 gram net l-dopa, and now its .56g of 90% for .5g net l-dopa the effect would be the same, just a smaller scoop.

    If its a higher dose of l-dopa then yeah, thats going to have effect, but in a powder product changing the % of extract alone doesn't make much difference if the net amount is the same. It matters in capsules, because it gives you more space to include other ingredients.

    So is the net amount of l-dopa higher?
    you guys basically talked this out already so i'm sorry I couldn't get in sooner E....i've been in the hospital for a few days. Sorry to keep you waiting
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    Hope everything is ok!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pmuz33 View Post
    I like somnidren gh ultra feel really refreshed in the mornings. Anyone know the cheapest uk price? So far my best is 25 inc delivery anything cheaper is a bonus the odd 's really add up in my monthly stacks.
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