Sesathin - Sounds like awesome addition for androgen cycles

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Bobo
    Got mine today and should start it very soon (after I finish w/ Body Octane).

    Cool, I'd like to see a review done by someone with ample experience. This stuff sounds too good to be true..I just wish the price would go down.


  2. For the results already coming back, the price is VERY reasonable - especially when you compare what the price was before I had it custom made.
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  3. Started today. Taste isn't bad at all. It just has a nutty flavor to it. If you've had research prodcuts, this is nothing at all. I'll take a 1/2ml (half cap) 3x/day as I am fairly lean.
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  4. I am feeling an increase in temperature about 1 hour after I take it now. Nothing extreme but definetly noticeble.
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  5. It has made me look flat, but I think it has helped in weight loss. However, I am doing so much cardio at the moment that it is hard to pin point one thing.
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  6. Leaning out a bit I think. Some guy at the gym said I looked more cut but its tough to really tell yet.


    Another thing:

    Libido seems to be dropping a bit. Nothing major though.
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  7. I'm taking sesathin in combination with guggul extreme, nicotine, HEAT stack, and green tea extract, I just added in Yohimburn es in conjunction. I'm a fat buring machine right now, I dropped 3 pounds last week. Despite the weightloss I'm getting stronger in my workouts, as my reps in my first two workouts this week have increased noticably. With these results I'm turning into a huge Avant Labs convert, enough so that I'm seriously considering purchasing some leptigen mass and basic formula once I clear some room on my credit cards.

    I am however experiencing a drop in libido, as other users on the Avant forum have also noticed. From what I gather they haven't really been able to pinpoint the cause of this libido drop as of yet, but for myself I've noticed that the topical yohimbine from the Yohimburn es seems to help in that department.

  8. I do have some Absolved on the way as we speak though, I feel that for myself this is going to be more effective for the time being than the yohimburn es until I lean up a touch more, and I suspect that I have a fair amount of visceral adipose tissue. I'm hoping to lean up to the 7-8 percent range, and then hit up a methyl-dien lean mass cycle at that point.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Bobo
    Leaning out a bit I think. Some guy at the gym said I looked more cut but its tough to really tell yet.


    Another thing:

    Libido seems to be dropping a bit. Nothing major though.

    and its only been 3 days? thats pretty good.

    Maxx...how long have you been on your cocktail there?

  10. I just started up on the HEAT stack on saturday of last week, cutting with nicotine, guggul extreme and green tea for two weeks, and have been on sesathin for about a month now.

  11. Hey max silver,

    How are the results of the sesathin so far? Your the first person Ive read about being on it for a decent amount of time other than a few people associated with avant. Most say they are leaning out nicely, but many are also reporting quite a few negative side effects that leave me hesitant.

  12. http://ss.jircas.affrc.go.jp/engpage...3/37-03-02.pdf

    can someone read that, and translate it..lol. It is a study on rats with sesamin, and it says it decreased the hepatic activity and mRNA abundance of lipgenic enzymes. This was associated with the down-regulation of sterol regulatory element-binding protein-1, a transcriptional factor that regulates the lipogenic enzyme gene expression.

    what does that mean? Sorry not a biologist..lol..

    h19

  13. I've had pretty decent results with the stuff so far. The first week I was on it was when on a week off from lifting, right after finishing up with pct. I kept my calories very high, and gained very little or no fat that week. I've been using it while cutting for a few weeks, and can't really say what results I can attribute to the sesathin alone as I've been on other supplements as well. The first week back lifting was while cutting, but oddly enough I gained a pound or two that week. I'm just now starting to see the normal weight loss that one would associate with a cutting diet now, so it's a little early to tell.

  14. sesathin + fl7= fun carbups with little fat
    sesathin + fl7= Definate leaning out
    but yes i have noticed a decrease in libido, but its not only from sesathin its from norephedrine + low carb/calorie + sessathin

  15. A little update. I am almost done my bottle (probably week left) and it definetly helps with fat loss. It also flattens you out but so does most potent fat burners (T3, Triac, etc..). I do get a little warm feeling after I take it but that has decreased the longer I use it. THe most obvious results happened around the 2nd week when all of a sudden you run out of hole on your belts to hold you pants up. Libido is still slightly down but nothing to worry about. Overall I tihnk the product works very well and probably has some very synergisitic properties wioth other substances. I will be using it again.
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  16. Just wait until you try this stuff with HEAT stack, in my first week on this combination I've lost about 2.5 pounds or so, and my strength has been increasing in all of my lifts. I've been stacking it with nicotine, HEAT stack, and guggul extreme, and these have proven to be a very effective cutting stack thusfar.

    As soon as I get my homebrew FL7 items and absolved in and have some time on those, I'll be sure to update that as well. I've decided to go allout on this cut to maximize results without any androgen cycles, (suspect I have some prostate related issues), and have ordered some leptigen mass and basic formula. This should be one seriously effective stack, I may in fact increase calories somewhat and shoot for a recomp instead of a straight cut.

  17. what do you mean nicotine?

  18. Nicotine in gum form. I chew 2mg 6 times daily. I find it to be a very effective appetite suppressant, mood/cognitive ability enhancer, as well as find it to have potent nutrient partitioning ability in combination with green tea.

  19. nicotine is definately a staple in my cutting stack. Especially since its easy to obtain for us Canadians

  20. Quote Originally Posted by hamper19
    http://ss.jircas.affrc.go.jp/engpage...3/37-03-02.pdf

    can someone read that, and translate it..lol. It is a study on rats with sesamin, and it says it decreased the hepatic activity and mRNA abundance of lipgenic enzymes. This was associated with the down-regulation of sterol regulatory element-binding protein-1, a transcriptional factor that regulates the lipogenic enzyme gene expression.

    what does that mean? Sorry not a biologist..lol..

    h19
    Lipogenic enzymes are the ones that encourage the storage of fat in the cell. If they are decreased, you could eat more without incurring the normal amount of fatty tissue accumulation.

    Greenguy

  21. Insulin increases LPL (enzyme) which captures FFA's and helps form triglycerides within adipose cells. This also decreases HSL and cAMP.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by max silver
    Nicotine in gum form. I chew 2mg 6 times daily. I find it to be a very effective appetite suppressant, mood/cognitive ability enhancer, as well as find it to have potent nutrient partitioning ability in combination with green tea.
    nicotine gum!! that **** is expensive.

  23. Nicotine gum isn't all that terribly expensive really, in Canada I pay about 40 dollars for 105 4mg pieces, which lasts me around a month. This is something I only use when cutting, and compared to some of the other stuff I'm using it's relatively inexpensive in comparison.

  24. Anymore feedback?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by max silver
    Nicotine gum isn't all that terribly expensive really, in Canada I pay about 40 dollars for 105 4mg pieces, which lasts me around a month. This is something I only use when cutting, and compared to some of the other stuff I'm using it's relatively inexpensive in comparison.
    http://search.ebay.com/nicotine-gum

    Cheapest place I've found it.
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