Sesathin - Sounds like awesome addition for androgen cycles

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  1. Hey max silver,

    How are the results of the sesathin so far? Your the first person Ive read about being on it for a decent amount of time other than a few people associated with avant. Most say they are leaning out nicely, but many are also reporting quite a few negative side effects that leave me hesitant.


  2. http://ss.jircas.affrc.go.jp/engpage...3/37-03-02.pdf

    can someone read that, and translate it..lol. It is a study on rats with sesamin, and it says it decreased the hepatic activity and mRNA abundance of lipgenic enzymes. This was associated with the down-regulation of sterol regulatory element-binding protein-1, a transcriptional factor that regulates the lipogenic enzyme gene expression.

    what does that mean? Sorry not a biologist..lol..

    h19

  3. I've had pretty decent results with the stuff so far. The first week I was on it was when on a week off from lifting, right after finishing up with pct. I kept my calories very high, and gained very little or no fat that week. I've been using it while cutting for a few weeks, and can't really say what results I can attribute to the sesathin alone as I've been on other supplements as well. The first week back lifting was while cutting, but oddly enough I gained a pound or two that week. I'm just now starting to see the normal weight loss that one would associate with a cutting diet now, so it's a little early to tell.
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  4. sesathin + fl7= fun carbups with little fat
    sesathin + fl7= Definate leaning out
    but yes i have noticed a decrease in libido, but its not only from sesathin its from norephedrine + low carb/calorie + sessathin

  5. A little update. I am almost done my bottle (probably week left) and it definetly helps with fat loss. It also flattens you out but so does most potent fat burners (T3, Triac, etc..). I do get a little warm feeling after I take it but that has decreased the longer I use it. THe most obvious results happened around the 2nd week when all of a sudden you run out of hole on your belts to hold you pants up. Libido is still slightly down but nothing to worry about. Overall I tihnk the product works very well and probably has some very synergisitic properties wioth other substances. I will be using it again.
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  6. Just wait until you try this stuff with HEAT stack, in my first week on this combination I've lost about 2.5 pounds or so, and my strength has been increasing in all of my lifts. I've been stacking it with nicotine, HEAT stack, and guggul extreme, and these have proven to be a very effective cutting stack thusfar.

    As soon as I get my homebrew FL7 items and absolved in and have some time on those, I'll be sure to update that as well. I've decided to go allout on this cut to maximize results without any androgen cycles, (suspect I have some prostate related issues), and have ordered some leptigen mass and basic formula. This should be one seriously effective stack, I may in fact increase calories somewhat and shoot for a recomp instead of a straight cut.

  7. what do you mean nicotine?

  8. Nicotine in gum form. I chew 2mg 6 times daily. I find it to be a very effective appetite suppressant, mood/cognitive ability enhancer, as well as find it to have potent nutrient partitioning ability in combination with green tea.

  9. nicotine is definately a staple in my cutting stack. Especially since its easy to obtain for us Canadians

  10. Quote Originally Posted by hamper19
    http://ss.jircas.affrc.go.jp/engpage...3/37-03-02.pdf

    can someone read that, and translate it..lol. It is a study on rats with sesamin, and it says it decreased the hepatic activity and mRNA abundance of lipgenic enzymes. This was associated with the down-regulation of sterol regulatory element-binding protein-1, a transcriptional factor that regulates the lipogenic enzyme gene expression.

    what does that mean? Sorry not a biologist..lol..

    h19
    Lipogenic enzymes are the ones that encourage the storage of fat in the cell. If they are decreased, you could eat more without incurring the normal amount of fatty tissue accumulation.

    Greenguy

  11. Insulin increases LPL (enzyme) which captures FFA's and helps form triglycerides within adipose cells. This also decreases HSL and cAMP.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by max silver
    Nicotine in gum form. I chew 2mg 6 times daily. I find it to be a very effective appetite suppressant, mood/cognitive ability enhancer, as well as find it to have potent nutrient partitioning ability in combination with green tea.
    nicotine gum!! that **** is expensive.

  13. Nicotine gum isn't all that terribly expensive really, in Canada I pay about 40 dollars for 105 4mg pieces, which lasts me around a month. This is something I only use when cutting, and compared to some of the other stuff I'm using it's relatively inexpensive in comparison.

  14. Anymore feedback?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by max silver
    Nicotine gum isn't all that terribly expensive really, in Canada I pay about 40 dollars for 105 4mg pieces, which lasts me around a month. This is something I only use when cutting, and compared to some of the other stuff I'm using it's relatively inexpensive in comparison.
    http://search.ebay.com/nicotine-gum

    Cheapest place I've found it.
  

  
 

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