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    Question I hate vegetables - will this suffice?


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    I love fruits but I am a low carb guy. I get in a ton of anti-oxidants form supplements and I get my fiber from low carb breads, etc.

    I feel I am missing "something" from being devoid of veggies.

    Will a product like this "replace" my veggies in total?

    Arent these products simply ground down veggies?

    Thanks

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    Vegemite


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    errrrrr huh?
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    Thanks for the input but this is not what Im looking for at all


    Vegemite is made from used brewers' yeast extract, a by-product of beer manufacturing, and various vegetable and spice additives. It is salty, slightly bitter, and malty — similar to beef bouillon. The texture is smooth and sticky. It is not as intensely flavoured as British Marmite and it is less sweet than the New Zealand version of Marmite.
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    I just can't understand how some hate veggies? Damn, they are the more delicious foods out there ... maybe I am an odd ball.
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    I know I know. Other than that, I eat clean and healthy as heck too!

    Just not a fan of anything green unless I slather it with 10 pounds of butter or cheese to mask the taste and that's counter productive of course LOL

    Anyone help out here?
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    I have to say that I don't think there is any good replacement for vegtables in your diet. I could be wrong but I would never cut them out of mine.
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    i eat veg but not as many as i should. i added in v8 fusion. i think that helps and it tastes good, like fruit.
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    I too hate vegatables and am curious what others have to say. I do drink a glass of V8 Fusion each day (tastes sweet like fruit) but I dont think its enough-- Plus its expensive!
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    there's no replacement for the whole food nutrition veggies contain. you can buy all the greens products you like but supplements will never effectively replace whole food. the best thing you could probably do is juice your veggies. i believe it's fair to say we're all big boys here. eat your veggies, you're not 5 anymore they're good for you. if you need to season them a little bit and add some melted cheese on them to be able to down them, so be it. just eat them. your body will thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by purebred View Post
    there's no replacement for the whole food nutrition veggies contain. you can buy all the greens products you like but supplements will never effectively replace whole food. the best thing you could probably do is juice your veggies. i believe it's fair to say we're all big boys here. eat your veggies, you're not 5 anymore they're good for you. if you need to season them a little bit and add some melted cheese on them to be able to down them, so be it. just eat them. your body will thank you.
    Even then, vegtables help a lot with digestion... you need the ruf***e.
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    You cant sub. for the real thing, stop acting like you're 6 and eat your veggies
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    Quote Originally Posted by purebred View Post
    there's no replacement for the whole food nutrition veggies contain. you can buy all the greens products you like but supplements will never effectively replace whole food. the best thing you could probably do is juice your veggies. i believe it's fair to say we're all big boys here. eat your veggies, you're not 5 anymore they're good for you. if you need to season them a little bit and add some melted cheese on them to be able to down them, so be it. just eat them. your body will thank you.
    x2. I eat 1 serving of veggies and 1 serving of fruit with meals 2, 3, and 4. There are just so many things you get from the real thing as opposed to something that's processed (also somethings you avoid by not eating processed $h!t). I actually eat my veggies raw. Well my green beans i don't eat raw....but I usually eat broccoli and asparagus raw everyday. It's not easy.....I generally have a 36oz container of water sitting next to me to wash it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purebred View Post
    there's no replacement for the whole food nutrition veggies contain. you can buy all the greens products you like but supplements will never effectively replace whole food. the best thing you could probably do is juice your veggies. i believe it's fair to say we're all big boys here. eat your veggies, you're not 5 anymore they're good for you. if you need to season them a little bit and add some melted cheese on them to be able to down them, so be it. just eat them. your body will thank you.
    I agree on the juicing..you can drink down many more veggies that you would most likely eat. The trick is to add a bit of apple to all veggie drinks for a good tasting drink.
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    Well maybe the fact that vegetables reduce risk of many cancers may make you change your mind about eating them. For example, broccoli reduces risk of colon cancer and it's not just because of antioxidants.
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    If you can handle V8 juice, blend in some spinach or other greens with some hot sauce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marco wolf View Post
    If you can handle V8 juice, blend in some spinach or other greens with some hot sauce.
    Interesting. I eat my veggies, but I still drink about 12 oz of v8 a day. You have to get the low sodium version though, the normal kind is slammed with it.
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    Suck it up. That's what sacrifice and dedication is. There's no substitute for whole food veggies. Get creative. Learn how to cook. You can Stir fry broccoli, cauliflower, onions, carrots with some sesame oil or olive oil with some spices and it's really good. I hate most veggies myself but without them I have big digestive issues, and overall I just feel worse. You create a big acid environment in your body which will make you bloated all the time.
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    Easy way to get down a ton of vegetables is to make a smoothie.

    4 oz of baby spinach
    1/2 banana
    1.5-2 scoops protein powder
    1/2 C berries

    This is a hugely alkalinic drink that supplies 3 servings of produce and 35-50g of protein (depending on amount and brand). There's about 30g of carbs in it, but at least 6g of fiber as well.

    You can be creative with these and you can't taste the spinach at all.
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    "Theoretically" (key word here).......ALL the essential phytonutrients and antioxidants and GOOD CRAP that comes from veggies (even exotic ones rarely ingested in a normal/high veggie intake diet) are in the powders minus the calories and carbs (good for dieting??).

    In addition to that, you get "theoretically" MUCH more micronutrients from a few table spoons of the GREENS as we all know 90% of fruits and veggies are water.

    Am I flawed in my thinking?

    In other words, sure, the greens drinks maybe missing SOME components normally found in eating veggies, but perhaps it's a suitable/close second place. !?!?!?

    Isn't this akin to slamming a protein shake with pure protein verses eating a fat steak (with the fat and protein and cholesterol and k/cal)??

    Isn't this also akin to taking fish oil STRAIGHT as opposed to ingesting 500-1,000
    k/cal of salmon daily to get comparable EFA's ??

    Isn't this also akin to taking Celery Seed extract for blood pressure support as opposed to eating 10 pounds of celery stalks daily??

    Isn't this also akin to taking 5 grams of Creatine as opposed to eating 10 pounds of red meat for said amount??

    Isn't this also akin to taking ONE caffeine capsule as opposed to drinking 2-3 cups of coffee??

    Isn't this also akin to taking a (comprehensive) calcium supplement daily with zero calories as opposed to drinking a gallon of milk every day??



    Quote Originally Posted by eatingisfun View Post
    Well maybe the fact that vegetables reduce risk of many cancers may make you change your mind about eating them. For example, broccoli reduces risk of colon cancer and it's not just because of antioxidants.
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    look into golden gains, nearly 2 days equivalent of fruit and veggies in 1 serving
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    "Theoretically" (key word here).......ALL the essential phytonutrients and antioxidants and GOOD CRAP that comes from veggies (even exotic ones rarely ingested in a normal/high veggie intake diet) are in the powders minus the calories and carbs (good for dieting??).

    In addition to that, you get "theoretically" MUCH more micronutrients from a few table spoons of the GREENS as we all know 90% of fruits and veggies are water.

    Am I flawed in my thinking?

    In other words, sure, the greens drinks maybe missing SOME components normally found in eating veggies, but perhaps it's a suitable/close second place. !?!?!?

    Isnt this akin to taking a protein shake with pure protein verses eating a fat steak (with the fat and protein and cholesterol and k/cal) !?!?!?!?
    But even with protein no one will tell you to replace all whole food protein sources with protein shakes. Nor is it healthy to do so IMHO. Also, those v8 fusion drinks aren't really low in carbs, either. They contain about 30g per serving, just like Rodja's recipe for a shake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyChemist View Post
    But even with protein no one will tell you to replace all whole food protein sources with protein shakes. Nor is it healthy to do so IMHO. Also, those v8 fusion drinks aren't really low in carbs, either. They contain about 30g per serving, just like Rodja's recipe for a shake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyChemist View Post
    Also, those v8 fusion drinks aren't really low in carbs, either. They contain about 30g per serving, just like Rodja's recipe for a shake.
    Not true if you get the diet version
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    I`m big on green supplements. Progressive puts out a top notch product. I will even say it`s a better substitute to vege`s as it`s much, much more complete. The only way to see if it`s true is to try it yourself for 2 months. Plus at about $1 a serving it`s less expensive and has more nutrition that`s found in vegetables.

    The exception would be somebody on a keto diet, I`d go with as much whole food as possible to keep you feeling full, making the diet easier to follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ward0351 View Post
    Interesting. I eat my veggies, but I still drink about 12 oz of v8 a day. You have to get the low sodium version though, the normal kind is slammed with it.
    I agree on the low sodium version; I won't drink the regular V8... it is like 400+ mg of sodium per serving. I say use your hot sauce if you want some salinity to it like I do or throw in some westichire sauce.

    And to the poster who does not like vegetables... seriously, you are on your way to the most preventable cancer that there is, Colon cancer if you do not have adequate fiber and nutrients from vegetables. I am with everyone else and say it seriously, grow up, learn what ones you can tolerate and figure out what cooking methods yield taste/texture that you like. I love vegetables but there are some that took a while for me to get used to or figure out how to cook to my liking. Get to the grocery, pick up some things you like and start eating green!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Easy way to get down a ton of vegetables is to make a smoothie.

    4 oz of baby spinach
    1/2 banana
    1.5-2 scoops protein powder
    1/2 C berries

    This is a hugely alkalinic drink that supplies 3 servings of produce and 35-50g of protein (depending on amount and brand). There's about 30g of carbs in it, but at least 6g of fiber as well.

    You can be creative with these and you can't taste the spinach at all.
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    look into golden gains, nearly 2 days equivalent of fruit and veggies in 1 serving
    Awesome suggestions there. ^

    I'll add one, for the veggie hater: drop into your local Jamba Juice or Robeks, and buy a shot of wheat grass. It's foul stuff, I hate it, but for $1.50, you're getting the nutrition of 2-3lbs of salad. It may seem expensive, $1.50/day, but a big salad every day will cost more than $1.50, and provide less nutrients.

    I'm not a big veggie eater, myself. I like Rodja's idea, I just need to break out the blender in my tiny kitchen.

    Golden Gains is VERY tasty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    I agree on the low sodium version; I won't drink the regular V8... it is like 400+ mg of sodium per serving. I say use your hot sauce if you want some salinity to it like I do or throw in some westichire sauce.
    Reminds me of my Virgin Mary's. V8/lemon juice/worcestorshire sauce/hot sauce/horse radish.
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    i stand corrected dark half - do you have the nutritional info on diet, low-sodium v8 fusion - i'm curious and i cant seem to find it.
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    OK, this should probably go in the recipe section, but I'll bet you'd like my greens the way I cook them. (spinach, collards, mustard greens, bok choy, whatever)

    1) Fry some pork bellies (from grass fed, drug free pigs)
    2) Remove pork bellies, leaving fat in pan
    3) Add cooking sherry, a little olive oil and a touch of soy sauce
    4) Add greens and cook till tender
    5) Add cut up pork bellies and mix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaw View Post
    Suck it up. That's what sacrifice and dedication is. There's no substitute for whole food veggies. Get creative. Learn how to cook. You can Stir fry broccoli, cauliflower, onions, carrots with some sesame oil or olive oil with some spices and it's really good. I hate most veggies myself but without them I have big digestive issues, and overall I just feel worse. You create a big acid environment in your body which will make you bloated all the time.

    This is the first person here to bring up the PH factor and the foods we eat. REPS mang, your stomaches and bodies PH factor play pivitol roles on how you feel and how your body performs.
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    After posting this I took my own advice. I needed some milk so while at the store I grabbed a bag of stir fry veggies already pre-mixed. It's got broccoli, sweet peas, carrots, and cabbage. Got a bottle of sesame oil. Poured 2 tablespoons of sesame oil in the pan. Stirred it up. Put pan on high. Once in got hot put it down to medium. Added some seasoning. Stirred in around. It literally took 5 minutes and it's very good. I usually just suck it up and eat my veggies raw or in a salad but I decided to eat for taste and it can be done! What a stunning discovery! LOL I'm eating them right now with my burger as I type. I absolutely hate onions too. But fried onions are a whole other story. They are great. Use some healthy oil and it's guilt free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaw View Post
    After posting this I took my own advice. I needed some milk so while at the store I grabbed a bag of stir fry veggies already pre-mixed. It's got broccoli, sweet peas, carrots, and cabbage. Got a bottle of sesame oil. Poured 2 tablespoons of sesame oil in the pan. Stirred it up. Put pan on high. Once in got hot put it down to medium. Added some seasoning. Stirred in around. It literally took 5 minutes and it's very good. I usually just suck it up and eat my veggies raw or in a salad but I decided to eat for taste and it can be done! What a stunning discovery! LOL I'm eating them right now with my burger as I type. I absolutely hate onions too. But fried onions are a whole other story. They are great. Use some healthy oil and it's guilt free.
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    PRAL gets brought up a lot here, but most people still don't understand all of the implications of low pH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    PRAL gets brought up a lot here, but most people still don't understand all of the implications of low pH.
    Yeah, its just so hard on so many systems, not to mention what its doin to your GI tract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    "Theoretically" (key word here).......ALL the essential phytonutrients and antioxidants and GOOD CRAP that comes from veggies (even exotic ones rarely ingested in a normal/high veggie intake diet) are in the powders minus the calories and carbs (good for dieting??).

    In addition to that, you get "theoretically" MUCH more micronutrients from a few table spoons of the GREENS as we all know 90% of fruits and veggies are water.

    Am I flawed in my thinking?

    In other words, sure, the greens drinks maybe missing SOME components normally found in eating veggies, but perhaps it's a suitable/close second place. !?!?!?

    Isn't this akin to slamming a protein shake with pure protein verses eating a fat steak (with the fat and protein and cholesterol and k/cal)??

    Isn't this also akin to taking fish oil STRAIGHT as opposed to ingesting 500-1,000
    k/cal of salmon daily to get comparable EFA's ??

    Isn't this also akin to taking Celery Seed extract for blood pressure support as opposed to eating 10 pounds of celery stalks daily??

    Isn't this also akin to taking 5 grams of Creatine as opposed to eating 10 pounds of red meat for said amount??

    Isn't this also akin to taking ONE caffeine capsule as opposed to drinking 2-3 cups of coffee??

    Isn't this also akin to taking a (comprehensive) calcium supplement daily with zero calories as opposed to drinking a gallon of milk every day??
    Sounds like this is akin to an excuse not to "EAT" vegetables....
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    Damn, forgot to edit...

    My point being, all of those that you listed are SUPPLEMENTAL and not meant to replace. you CANNOT replace vegetables with a supplement. It will not, has not, and cannot be done, period, end of story, road, etc.
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    Not trying to start a war here but not ONE person has TRULY satisfied my question!! Besides getting called crap (LOL) and told "just eat your veggies and shut up", I have yet to get ANYONE to validate their comments.

    I'd love to get one of the intelligent board members to break this down for me. As I stated, the greens powders have far more fiber, micronutrients, vitamins, minerals and a wider array of the aforementioned b/c the source of the greens is very concentrated and from a widespread well designed variety (as opposed to just ingesting 2-4 random veggies).

    As I already relayed, I dont doubt veggies are superior from some reason (??). However - WHY is the question!

    WHAT specifically do veggies have that the greens veggies dont!?!?

    Since this is so obvious to all of you - this should be an EASY question! Yet, all I get is painted with tar and feathers LMAO

    PS: With respect to PRAL and Alkaline foods, these type of foods are EXTREMELY alkaline!!! Again, they are simply designed to be that way. Here the rub: SOME VEGGIES ARE NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One more rub: Additionally, some veggies haver ZERO FIBER too!!!!!!!

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    I say go for it, especially if they're dehydrated, powdered greens.

    I take liver tabs because I hate the taste of liver. Same thing, I suppose.
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    just throw the veggies in a blender with some low sodium v8.

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