3 grams of d-aspartic Acid raises test by 42%?
- 12-04-2009, 12:06 AM
3 grams of d-aspartic Acid raises test by 42%?
Did you guys read about this on ergo-log? Three grams D-aspartic acid raises testosterone levels by a third
From what i can find searching on google it seems legit.
- 12-04-2009, 12:13 AM
- 12-04-2009, 12:36 AM
wikipedia says its whats in the artificial sweeteners... sugar increases test! give me some oreos!
jk, but its an amino acid, i doubt any supplements have it in them. id try zinc before i tried this... i duno, might workCELTIC LABS REP
12-04-2009, 04:16 PM
it's really really bad for you.
let me find a link.....
This is copy and pasted from another forum with a thread about it:
induced oxidative stress and mitochondrial dysfunctions in testis of prepubertal rats
Abstract Previously we demonstrated the potential of (d-Asp), an acidic amino acid to induce oxidative response in prepubertal rat testis in vitro. In the present study, we determined the extent of oxidative stress in the testis of prepubertal rats that were administered d-Asp (100 and 500 mg/kg bw/d, i.p. 7 days). d-Asp treatment significantly elevated the levels of reactive oxygen species, malondialdehyde and hydroperoxide in cytosol and mitochondria of testis, which were accompanied by levels, elevated activities of glutathione-dependent enzymes and catalase suggesting a state of oxidative stress. Further, the activities of d-aspartate oxidase and 3β-hydroxy steroid dehydrogenase were elevated in the testis. The testis mitochondria of d-Asp-treated rats showed altered citric acid and complex enzyme activities, reduction in membrane potential, increased permeability and intracellular Ca2+ levels. Collectively, these findings suggest the potential of d-Asp to induce oxidative perturbations in the testis of prepubertal rats and this mechanism may in part be responsible for the observed physiological effects.
...so it might be bad, might not, but there doesn't seem to be any human studies.
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12-04-2009, 07:40 PM
12-05-2009, 09:43 AM
12-05-2009, 10:49 AM
Yeah it is not a good idea to take large amounts of aspartic acid. Asp Acid actually activates the N-methyl-D-aspartate receptor (NMDA), which is a Glu receptor. The NMDA receptor is actually what is one of the problems in Alzheimer's disease. In Alzheimer's you have decreased cholinergic transmission and overexcited NMDA activation which causes something called excitotoxicity. I am not saying that you will develop Alzheimer's, that would be a bit naive , however, anything that causes excitotoxicity is not something worth using.
It is also a player in migraines and is a trigger for a large number of people.
12-05-2009, 04:03 PM
12-05-2009, 04:11 PM
12-05-2009, 06:05 PM
Bottom line, removing the offending agent is of course the best thing to do.
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01-30-2010, 12:06 PM
The research is their. The issue is really how much. From what I read, it takes a much smaller amount then that to produce test increase. I believe muscle warefare goes over this in its write up.
02-01-2010, 10:21 AM
Muscle warefare is using 75mg of N-Methyl-D-Aspartate
It is deemed 100 times more powerful at activating this receptor pathway than D-Aspartic Acid itself. Its effects are much similar to all of those listed for D-Aspartic Acid, yet highly more concentrated.
02-01-2010, 11:04 AM
02-01-2010, 02:30 PM
I don't like the thought of N-Methyl-DA either, but DAA looks alright. In fact, it's essential for healthy reproductive function in all mammals I've researched.
02-01-2010, 02:48 PM
doing my own thang!
02-01-2010, 03:02 PM
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04-15-2010, 10:34 PM
this is why the supplement industry gets a bad rap.....no testing...maybe all the big players can get together and do safety studies on some of these products before big bad government decides to protect us from ourselves and take them away
04-15-2010, 10:40 PM
04-15-2010, 11:36 PM
i just picked up some TCF1 when i try it i will try to keep you guys posted.
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04-15-2010, 11:40 PM
04-16-2010, 12:16 PM
04-16-2010, 01:49 PM
Looking forward to the feedback on this. Im picking up 2 bottles of this... Along with some other goodies as well.
04-17-2010, 05:49 PM
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04-20-2010, 02:15 PM
d-Aspartic acid is the standard 1
dl-Aspartic acid multiply by 2
Sodium d-Aspartate multiply by 1.17
Sodium dl-Aspartate multiply by 2.33
DAA is the cleanest and most efficient of these IMO. The DL works fine (and so far about 75% of the stuff out there is DL from my testing of free acid samples) but the DL is notably more CNS active. So far I have not experienced any overt toxicity with any form, and no adverse cognitive effect at all with 2.3g DAA, but I would suggest caution of long-term use of the DL or use of N-Methyl-DAA.
04-20-2010, 02:18 PM
04-20-2010, 03:28 PM
looks good on humans not on rats.
i unno but I think used in not extream amounts it could be great to add to the arsinal.
04-20-2010, 03:29 PM
Dr.D how did you like it, what kind of gains/benefits did you notice? Im ordering 2 bottles of Testosterone Conversion Factor-1, for PCT.
04-20-2010, 05:34 PM
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