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  1. Question green mag and creatine mono


    i have recently been using green mag (preworkout) and just picked up sum mono. I was wondering how you think i shoudl use these together, or if at all?

    Maybe like green mag pre - mono post or just mono on off days?

    Also, When would u take the green mag cuz it says to take pre w/o but i thought creatine is better post?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    i have recently been using green mag (preworkout) and just picked up sum mono. I was wondering how you think i shoudl use these together, or if at all?

    Maybe like green mag pre - mono post or just mono on off days?

    Also, When would u take the green mag cuz it says to take pre w/o but i thought creatine is better post?
    There are a lot of mixed answers on when it is best to consume the creatine mono. I prefer taking it pre and post for optimal uptake. Take the Green Magnitude pre and add 5G of creatine mono to your post workout shake.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by CONTROLLED LABS View Post
    you dont need additional creatine, just 1 scoop of green magnitude daily.
    Yes. But if he has the mono already in hand why not take it post.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyIOSOS View Post
    Yes. But if he has the mono already in hand why not take it post.
    its a waste to take extra creatine, your body can only use so much
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by CONTROLLED LABS View Post
    its a waste to take extra creatine, your body can only use so much
    Def. do not feel like it is a waste. Taking advantage of the post window will insure optimal uptake into the muscles. It is very common for people to take 5 g pre and 5 g post. Of course chelate is good pre workout creatine but it will not hurt to take mono post workout.

    I am again using Green Bulge which is similar in capsule form. I take it pre and throw some mono in my post workout shake. The two forms of creatine inside Bulge and Mag are in my opinion pre workout creatines and adding a third creatine to post is def. a plus. Just my 2 cents.

  6. IF you have the creatine mono on hand, don't throw it away. Depending how much you have, you can even add it to your MAGnitude tub and call it a day.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    i thought creatine is better post?
    Not by any stretch of the imagination, it's the CARB LOADED (BLOADED ) products of the past that WERE popular POST workout. It had nothing to do with creatine, and everything to do with the CARBS and ELECTROLYTES.
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    Since you already have it, take the mono on off days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim623 View Post
    Since you already have it, take the mono on off days.
    Good Idea

  10. Quote Originally Posted by jim623 View Post
    Since you already have it, take the mono on off days.
    just to finish it off, that is fine

  11. dont take that extra 5g of mono post, ur body will convert any extra creatine to creatinine and u piss it out. plus is harder on ur kidneys/greater chance of kidney stones

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Swoldierboy View Post
    dont take that extra 5g of mono post, ur body will convert any extra creatine to creatinine and u piss it out. plus is harder on ur kidneys/greater chance of kidney stones

    Do you have information to back this up?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by SonicSWOLE View Post
    Do you have information to back this up?
    Yes, I would like to see that information.

  14. Creatinine is a breakdown product of creatine, or a chemical waste molecule that is generated from muscle metabolism. which is an important part of muscle. Creatinine is removed from the body entirely by the kidneys. Normal levels of creatinine in the blood are approximately 0.6 to 1.2 milligrams (mg) per deciliter (dl) in adult males and 0.5 to 1.1 milligrams per deciliter in adult females. Muscular young or middle-aged adults may have more creatinine in their blood than the norm for the general population. As the kidneys become impaired the creatinine will rise. Abnormally high levels of creatinine thus warn of possible malfunction or failure of the kidneys, sometimes even before a patient reports any symptoms. It is for this reason that standard blood and urine tests routinely check the amount of creatinine in the blood.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Swoldierboy View Post
    Creatinine is a breakdown product of creatine, or a chemical waste molecule that is generated from muscle metabolism. which is an important part of muscle. Creatinine is removed from the body entirely by the kidneys. Normal levels of creatinine in the blood are approximately 0.6 to 1.2 milligrams (mg) per deciliter (dl) in adult males and 0.5 to 1.1 milligrams per deciliter in adult females. Muscular young or middle-aged adults may have more creatinine in their blood than the norm for the general population. As the kidneys become impaired the creatinine will rise. Abnormally high levels of creatinine thus warn of possible malfunction or failure of the kidneys, sometimes even before a patient reports any symptoms. It is for this reason that standard blood and urine tests routinely check the amount of creatinine in the blood.
    Do you know of any real life situations where this occurred? I have rarely seen or heard of kidney problems from creatine use. I am not saying it won't happen but it does not happen to often. It would usually take an already unhealthy person to experience those problems.

  16. i have seen two in my life. one is my uncle and the other is a friend i sometimes train with, although he uses it year around mostly. so it cant happen. my uncle had blood in his urine from creatine use and my friend had 2 kidney stones. and there was a dude on here about a month ago who posted about kidney pain and when to the dr and he told him to get off creatine. once he got off his pain went away and kidney levels returned to normal. im not against creatine. heck, i just bought a tub of green mag, just u shouldnt prolong the use of it without any breaks or take more than the recommended dosage. its on there for a reason

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Swoldierboy View Post
    dont take that extra 5g of mono post, ur body will convert any extra creatine to creatinine and u piss it out. plus is harder on ur kidneys/greater chance of kidney stones
    there is just not benefit at all to take more than you need. too much (or too little) of anything (to a great degree) can be detrimental

  18. very true

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Swoldierboy View Post
    Creatinine is a breakdown product of creatine, or a chemical waste molecule that is generated from muscle metabolism. which is an important part of muscle. Creatinine is removed from the body entirely by the kidneys. Normal levels of creatinine in the blood are approximately 0.6 to 1.2 milligrams (mg) per deciliter (dl) in adult males and 0.5 to 1.1 milligrams per deciliter in adult females. Muscular young or middle-aged adults may have more creatinine in their blood than the norm for the general population. As the kidneys become impaired the creatinine will rise. Abnormally high levels of creatinine thus warn of possible malfunction or failure of the kidneys, sometimes even before a patient reports any symptoms. It is for this reason that standard blood and urine tests routinely check the amount of creatinine in the blood.
    But this doesn't mean the elevated creatinine is causing the problem, only that elevated creatinine is a sign of a problem. I have yet to see someone say that the creatinine itself is doing damage. I'd really like someone knowledgeable to comment on this.

  20. I don't have any studies, tests, journal abstracts to back any of this up. And I don't even fully agree with what the doctor told my friend. But take it for what it's worth. A couple months ago my friend, who I haven't spoken to in a long time, had to go into the ER with acute kidney failure. He had been taking creatine day in and day out for more than two years (yeah, not smart at all...I know). Of course the doc attributed it directly to his overuse of creatine. Now knowing this guy, he wasn't drinking anywhere near enough water per day, and probably boozing here and there as well.

    Long story short, don't take more than you need. There is a such thing as "too much of a good thing". All you're doing is wasting the creatine, wasting money, and putting more stress on your kidneys. It's quite simple.

    If GreenMag says pre/wo, take it pre/wo and call it a day. There are other things you can take post workout like beta-alanine, cissus, EAA'S/BCAA's, and Anti-oxidants that are just as beneficial as creatine.

  21. There are studies going 5 years, all the way up to 18 years, or continuous use. I call BS on the kidney issue, unless you have a pre-existing condition.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    There are studies going 5 years, all the way up to 18 years, or continuous use. I call BS on the kidney issue, unless you have a pre-existing condition.
    He may have had a pre-existing issue. I dont know. The dude was an old friend who I hadn't seen in a while. His mother actually told me when I ran into her one day. Like I said though, knowing him, I can guarantee he wasn't drinking enough water and I know he was boozing with friends fairly often. Neither of those go well with Creatine use. He's not the "researching" type LOL. BTW Poison, have a link for those studies? Or do you at least know how many G's per day these people were taking? 18 years is a long *ss time man.

    Like you said, Creatinine may have not been the problem itsself, but high levels are not a good thing. Who knows dude. I'm in the school of thought that you don't need 10g a day, or even a loading phase for that matter, to get what you want to get from Creatine use. Use what ya need to get the job done b/c anything more than that can become a waste of product, $$$, and could potentially be harmful.

  23. I agree with you. I hate seeing 'should i take creatine pre, post, or both' threads. Jesus, it's ****ing creatine, take 2-5gr any time of day you please, and you'll get the effects. We absorb creatine from steak just fine, so trust me, it ain't that fussy.

    But I'm pretty sure it's pretty damn safe, too.
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