What is in the "Proprietary Blend"...
- 11-26-2009, 06:41 AM
What is in the "Proprietary Blend"...
Just got a free sample of Muscletech naNO Vapor. It has a about 50 ingredients as usual and since its is free i give it a shot and sure it will have some beneficial effects. This supp as many has "proprietary blend" on the label and wanted to know if anyone is aware of a site or resource that has the exacts amounts of each ingredient. I checked their website and no go.
- 11-26-2009, 06:54 AM
- 11-26-2009, 07:10 AM
Funny, I saw a video where all the Muscle Tech dudes were sitting around talking about supps: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15...scletech_sport
I couldn't be less impressed. I know the breakdown has to be out there somewhere, just don't know where to look.
11-26-2009, 07:45 AM
Plug caffine up your butthole, then gargle a bucket full of sugar. Congrats, you got nanoVapour.
11-26-2009, 07:51 AM
11-26-2009, 07:54 AM
Yeah...its free so since my gym is open today I might as well try it. I don't use any pre workout supps right now so I am sure no matter what is in it I will feel something. Muscle tech in my opinion - the perfect example of what is wrong with the supplement industry. Proprietary blend means more or less...you don't know...and you don't want to know.
11-26-2009, 07:59 AM
11-26-2009, 08:42 AM
11-26-2009, 12:03 PM
if anything good comes from recent fda crackdown, hopefully it will be the end to proprietary blends. bb supps are the only thing i can think of that use prop blends-look at otc stuff at drugstore or wall-mart, none of that stuff is prop blend-every ingredient is listed in amounts. supplement company's should be ashamed for using this form of deception. we should be able to know what amount of active ingredients we are using.
11-26-2009, 12:21 PM
11-26-2009, 12:33 PM
I don't, got it as a sample and I just got back. Not bad, nothing special. Really looking for a way to find what exactly is in some of these products. My thought is the information has to be available...or maybe it doesn't.
11-26-2009, 12:36 PM
A sevring with 22 grams of active ingredients contains 12 grams of carbs. This leaves 10 grams of other stuff. Throw in enough arginine to give a descent pump, and this stuff sucks.
11-26-2009, 12:43 PM
11-26-2009, 12:44 PM
I'll admit that I used a tub of this stuff when I was stupid. It started out good(scary heartbeat/ raised blood pressure aside) But pretty quickly, it became more useless than just caffein. I would crash during my workout, and feel like **** for the rest of the day. My friends tell me I'm funny, but on a Nano crash, the humor was gone. Also,
11-26-2009, 12:51 PM
Theres lots of $$$ in the proprietary blends, ooops I mean 20-30 ingredients in small amounts to make you think its doing something, Oooops i mean..Its used to hide how much of each individual ingredient there using, Oops i mean protect it from competitors. I guess the rest of the health industry that dont use 'craprietory blends' and manage to make profit just fine must all be a big coincidence.
Hey bigT, i agree with you there. Glad theres someone else with the same view
Personally im thinking PH's and AAS are about the only things right now that will give the kind of gains that I want when I need some more size on me, till then I think i'll just keep my diet and training solid as I can and only put my money on something thats worthwhile like some Krealkalyn and powder.
11-26-2009, 02:08 PM
friend of mine got a free tub when he worked at gnc (it was a return) and i tried it one time and it made me weaker. prop blends with a bunch of ingredients means stay away.
CELTIC LABS REP
11-26-2009, 03:09 PM
11-26-2009, 04:51 PM
Personally I do my bit with educating people to stay from the hyped up and weak ass supplements and spend there money on things more worthwhile like some quality food and protein so they dont give unneeded business to companys that aren't willing to give a damn about their customers regardless of what they may say in their defense.
Its also useful to know how much of what ingredients your getting incase people have issues with side effects or tolerance issues for particular ingredients and need to know so they can make a choice as to buy the supplement or not.
11-26-2009, 06:31 PM
Prop Blend ensures product security, its not uncommon.
Proprietary formulas keep competitors from copying an expensive R&D. A patent would work, but this is expensive and not always easy.
Ingredient profiles are not etched in stone. This goes for prop blend and full disclosure profiles.
Unless they are being tested and certified(XPENSIVE), profiles at best are a suggestion.
Just because a company puts X on the label doesnt mean its fact. lol
Some high end supps might be tested and verified, but for the most part, its unheard of. They would brag about it in the write up so you would know if they took the xtra step.
my 2 pennies.
11-26-2009, 06:39 PM
11-26-2009, 06:48 PM
11-26-2009, 07:15 PM
Regardless, I was trying to point out about money being spent on things that are more 'tried and tested' on essentials wether its protein, food or Creatine. I hope that clears up what I meant lol
11-26-2009, 07:22 PM
IMHO it allows the customer to judge and see wether they are getting a weak bunch of ingredients just thrown in together or wether there is another product available that is more stronger and more likely to yield better results.
I hope this makes sense?
11-26-2009, 08:08 PM
I made it pretty clear how the supplement industry works.
You can choose to trust a company, whether it be prop blend or full disclosure, or not.
If you want to know exactly what is in your product X from company Y, your going to pay for it.
I suggest you seek out companies using NSF certification(or the likes) if tolerance, side effects and 100% product legitimacy are a concern.
Good luck. lol
11-26-2009, 08:29 PM
11-26-2009, 09:58 PM
Dont kill the messenger.
This is how it works.
Like i said, if your panties are in a bunch only buy from NSF, Consumer Lab and NNFA(NPA) certified(or the likes) companies using GMP standards.
If not, STFU and keep rollin like i do.
Ya'll jist dint no what to look for on dem dare stickers from deh bottle ya jist bught do ya? lol, j/k
11-26-2009, 10:07 PM
It does not please me to see such a worthless subject such as NanoVapour get so much consideration and airtime.
I suggest we lower the standards once more Gents.
11-26-2009, 10:10 PM
11-26-2009, 10:43 PM
11-27-2009, 02:28 AM
Lol if you think nanoVAPOR has many ingredient, wait till you read the blend of anabolic halo! If there ever was a kitchen sink supplement, this is it!
11-27-2009, 11:31 AM
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