At least 30g of Fish Oil daily?

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    The Top 5 Supplements to Gain Muscle Mass
    by Charles Poliquin
    In many seminars, I always get asked which supplements are best to gain mass. My answers will surprise many of you.

    Here they are:

    1. Fish Oil

    What? Fish oil? That is not cool, avant-garde, sexy, or exotic. Fish oil?

    Yes. Fish oil. You cannot be anabolic without enough Omega 3s. For example, I was once training a first-round pick for the NFL. He put on 29 lbs of lean body mass in one month once I jacked his fish oil intake to 45 grams a day. If you want to put muscle on and lose fat, take at least 30 grams of fish oil a day.

    Additional reasons for using fish oil include:

    It reduces inflammation.
    It improves insulin sensitivity: makes glucose and amino acids get better in your starved muscle cells.
    Taking fish oil in a liquid form is the most economical way of doing it. But taking them every meal works best. I always recommend a combination of liquid and capsules - Liquid for home meals, and capsules for away from home meals.

    Just interested to hear some opinions on this.


  2. Ha 45 grams, that's a lot
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  3. I've heard of fish oil super loading. Never tried it myself though. The idea that fish oil helps promote an anabolic state seems plausible. However, I am very skeptical that the NFL draft pick the OP refers to gains 29 lbs. of lean muscle in one month! Thats a lb. a day of lean mass!!!! I wish.
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  4. Haha april fools! Sounds like fish oil is much stronger than AAS...AND healthy!

  5. OMG 30G!!!! You could bleed to death, from a nose bleed.

    Fish oil is a hella blood thinner.
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  6. What if I mainline 1 liter of fish oil per day? Will I see huge gains in mass and strength?

  7. I agree the whole thing seems real sketchy, just though it was interesting.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by bmore View Post
    I agree the whole thing seems real sketchy, just though it was interesting.
    I was just kidding man; I don't know about that high of a dosage but I definately feel like it helps.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Mikey851 View Post
    I was just kidding man; I don't know about that high of a dosage but I definately feel like it helps.
    No worries buddy, I was just wondering because the guy who wrote that is no joke and it got me interested.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by bmore View Post
    No worries buddy, I was just wondering because the guy who wrote that is no joke and it got me interested.
    That's true. Give it a try man and let us know how it goes.

  11. If he put on 29 pounds of lean mass in a month it wasn't tons of fish oil that did it, end of story.

  12. I've taken anywhere from 20 to 30 grams daily for months at a time. I didn't experience any ill effects, nor did I gain 29 lean pounds

  13. Wouldnt that be like 15 to 30 average caps of fish oil and around a cup a day in liquid measure?
    I'll just bathe in it and absorb through osmosis.
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  14. I'd be careful with that one. As stated above it is a major blood thinner. I was taking 15g a day for a couple weeks and started feeling really ****ty. Took my BP and it was 80/45. Stopped taking it and it came back up to 110/70 in three days. A couple doctors told me that it can cause liver damage as well. Haven't looked into that yet, but if you are using cod liver oil, the vitamin A will bcome toxic.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by danieltx13 View Post
    If he put on 29 pounds of lean mass in a month it wasn't tons of fish oil that did it, end of story.
    Agreed, I mean obviously this NFL player was working his a** off with a top notch strength and conditioning coach. I'm just wondering how big of a role it actually played.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by h22t88 View Post
    I'd be careful with that one. As stated above it is a major blood thinner. I was taking 15g a day for a couple weeks and started feeling really ****ty. Took my BP and it was 80/45. Stopped taking it and it came back up to 110/70 in three days. A couple doctors told me that it can cause liver damage as well. Haven't looked into that yet, but if you are using cod liver oil, the vitamin A will bcome toxic.
    I wonder if fish oil could be used to treat high blood pressure? I take about 1g daily but maybe i'll up it.

    Quote Originally Posted by bmore View Post
    Agreed, I mean obviously this NFL player was working his a** off with a top notch strength and conditioning coach. I'm just wondering how big of a role it actually played.
    I don't care how hard this guy worked or how great his diet was. 29 lean lbs in one month? That might be oil but not fish oil.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by h22t88 View Post
    A couple doctors told me that it can cause liver damage as well.
    are those the same doctors who say you'll get liver damage from creatine?

  18. I usually only take about 6-8grams a day
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    are those the same doctors who say you'll get liver damage from creatine?
    Haha..I know right? Gotta love physicians. There was a study that concluded that CLA can cause fatty liver (stage before cirrhosis) in healthy individuals under high dosage. So IDK. I highly doubt that O3's would cause that when (a lot of us) take in well over 100g of other fat a day.

  20. back when nutra had 1000 caps for $26, i did it for a month. didnt really notice much. apparently it helped with mood for some too... not me
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  21. The man writes articles on a website that sells supplements. That should be all you need to know about him.

  22. Bunk. At no time in human evolution did any group of people consume 45 freakin grams of fish oils. It probably doesn't harm anything except your wallet, but c'mon...29 pounds in one month?!

    I've tried it and aside from oilier skin and temporary hike in mood, it didn't do anything for my physique. It may have lowered my immune response because the year I did it, I caught every damned cold and flu bug that went around and that's not the norm for me. I'd wager it would wonders for a morbidly obese person, but that's not what this site is about.

  23. 29 lean lbs. in one month.... that means I could gain 360 lean lbs. in one year right? And all i need is 17 kilograms of fish oil! I'm going to be HUGE!
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  24. 30 grams? damn. My burps would smell like My girlfriend at that time of the month.
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    http://ajpgi.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/282/2/G338

    "Liver weight from fish oil-fed mice was 60% greater than that from carbohydrate-fed mice, possibly through peroxisomal proliferation."

  26. I'll stick with 6 g a day...

  27. I can't post links yet so I had to copy and paste from eHow.com -

    Healthy Dosage
    According to IronMagazine.com, for the everyday man or woman who's not trying to build massive amounts of muscle, 1 to 2 caplets of fish oil is enough to maintain brain function and aid in heart health. Bodybuilders, on the other hand, have a larger intake because of a diet that is rich in fish containing omega-3 fatty acid. As a result, according to IronMagazine.com: "A reduction in fat mass is to be expected, as well as fat being less likely to be distributed in the abdominal area." This reduction of abdominal fat is the goal of bodybuilders so that the muscles in that area become more visible--so naturally increasing the amount of fish oil can help them achieve that goal. IronMagazine.com recommends a dosage of no more than 4g per day for anyone, so you might need more than the recommended 1 to 2 caplets depending on the EPA/DHA percentages in your fish oil (EPA/DHA are active ingredients in fish oil).
    Overdose
    You can have too much of a good thing--even something that's supposed to be healthy for you--so be wary of overdosing on fish oil. IronMagazine.com says that doses as minimal as 3.6g per day can thin the blood, which can lead to a higher probability of bleeding problems with any increase in dosage over that. Doses over 20g can lead to "increased liver and spleen weight, adverse effects on iron metabolism, and red blood cell deformities...". These possible side effects of too much fish oil are not worthwhile for a bodybuilder, or anyone.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by B5150 View Post
    http://ajpgi.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/282/2/G338

    "Liver weight from fish oil-fed mice was 60% greater than that from carbohydrate-fed mice, possibly through peroxisomal proliferation."
    what % of daily calories was from fish oil in that though? 30g is still under 10% of daily caloric intake for most of us, where in that example it sounds like they replaced all carb intake with fish oil which for most of us would be more like 200+g of fish oil

  29. I get about 6 grams a day tops.

  30. I have seen no ill effects from 10 caps a day (NP brand) and I know it has aided in keeping my BP in the normal range when before it hoovered above 130/90.
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