MassFX/TD Formestane/HGHup/Sustain Alpha Liqua-Vade... Have I lost my mind?!?

CrownRoyal

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All right, the order has been placed.. Within a week, I will be starting my natty test boosting/AI stack. Switching over from power back into bb training, I am really hoping this will give me the edge in my quest for size. I haven't ran any hormonal/natty test supplements for awhile now and I am really missing the feeling. And yes, natty supps work for me (I naturally have a higher level of estrogen, i.e. a lower level of free test). Anyway, so here is where I need the help of reps, experienced users, etc. My stack consists of MassFX Maximum Strength, TD Formestane, HGHup and Sustain Alpha Liqua-Vade. Also on hand I have all of the essentials (protein, carbs, bcaa's, creatine mono, multis, fishoils, beta alanine) along with a lot of ALCAR, cissus, and life support.

The question is, how can I dose this stack effectively, so that I can reach my full natural anabolic potential, without losing the effectiveness of any of these products? Also, besides dosing/timing, I will need to know if there is a specific matter in which I should taper off, so I don't encounter an estrogen rebound or anything of the sort (since PCT shouldn't be required for this stack). And finally, have I lost my freaking mind? OVERKILL?!? hahah

In return, I will keep a log of my experience (including before/after pictures).. And don't worry, I will be eating like a horse ;)
 
I am very curious to see how effective the liqua-vade is for different way of getting you the t-resv, I am thinking you drop either the liqua-vade from the intial stack, I never used form but I have read it is good for cutting as it keeps you nice and dry and helps with a lean bulk, that may be better for you if you do have high e...I say do the massfx, form, and HGHup, then when you are done with them bridge right into the liqua-vade. If you think you are rebound prone maybe taper off the form. The trans-resveratrol in liqua-vade should help with your estrogen receptors after you come off the form, this should help modulate your e and get you back to normal levels.

Now I could be wrong about this since I never used form, but from what i researched this may be your best way
 
Everything in there is synergestic, I personally would leave out the SA for another time and use the others for some SICK strength and recovery gains along with fat loss.
 
only use the hghup at night
use the form on lift days only

run the massfx straight threw followd by SA, run these 5 on 2 off it make em last longer
 
Ok so, from what I've gathered, looks like I will be running MassFX, TDForm and HGHup all together, and bridging straight into the liquid Sustain once the initial stack comes near to it's end. As far as dosing goes, I will be taking the HGHup prebed @ 5caps (every night), since according to Andrew's log, that seems to be quite effective. As for the massfx and form, should I just follow the regular dosing instructions? I know on older versions of MassFX, more was better, but this is the 'Maximum Strength' version, so would this compound be more potent than it's predecessor(s)? And wouldn't only dosing on certain days lower the effectiveness of the supps? I wanna get as close to an anabolic state as possible, even though this is a natty stack.
 
andrew732 said:
Everything in there is synergestic, I personally would leave out the SA for another time and use the others for some SICK strength and recovery gains along with fat loss.
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Yep using Form and SA at the same time may dry out your muscles too much. If I use anything else mildly anti-E while already on Formestane my hamstrings tighten up which means not enough hydration despite the fact I drink lots of water and use electrolytes with my workouts.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yep using Form and SA at the same time may dry out your muscles too much. If I use anything else mildly anti-E while already on Formestane my hamstrings tighten up which means not enough hydration despite the fact I drink lots of water and use electrolytes with my workouts.
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Definately. I have already decided that I will run the mass fx/form together, and once nearing the end of the cycle, bridge directly into the liquid sustain.
 
TexasLifter89 said:
i had prolactin issues with mass fx max so i would start with basic.
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I ran a stack that included MassFX, Primal Male, Drive and Fenugreek. I made some great gains but got a hard knot under my right nipple. I didn't think it was possible to get gyno from a natty stack. I beleive that the Fenugreek was a major contributing factor. I plan on running this stack again but I will replace the Fenugreek with and AI.
 
Alrighty, here we go.. This is the dosing protocol I wrote up, please, if reps/experienced users/etc have any educated tips or suggestions for the cycle/protocol, feel free to chime in.. Thanks!

Weeks 1-4:

MassFX MS - 4 caps daily (On days: 1 am, 2 pre wo, 1 pm ; Off days: 1-1-1-1)
TD Formestane - 100mg daily (2 squirts AM, 2 squirts PM) *Will taper off
HGHup - 5 caps daily (pm; all prebed)
Life Support - 3 caps daily (1-1-1 ; am/afternoon/pm)

Weeks 5-8:

Liquid Sustain Alpha - 2 servings daily (am/pm ; 5 days on, 2 off) *Will taper off
Life Support - 3 caps daily (1-1-1; am/afternoon/pm)
 
looks great man. when i did my massfx log, i decided to bump to 6 per day and it was very very noticeable. libido and aggression made a leap, which translated into going for more and more weight each session, which of course made for some sick strength inside a couple weeks. so i would say run it at 4 for 2 or 3 weeks, then bump to 2-2-2 dosing for a week or 2 if you can.
 
rolandajoint said:
looks great man. when i did my massfx log, i decided to bump to 6 per day and it was very very noticeable. libido and aggression made a leap, which translated into going for more and more weight each session, which of course made for some sick strength inside a couple weeks. so i would say run it at 4 for 2 or 3 weeks, then bump to 2-2-2 dosing for a week or 2 if you can.
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Thanks for the info big dawgggg! :cheers:
 
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