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FRAT Warning: I want to discuss para-workout protocols. (para being the whole pre, intra/peri & post workout supplement protocol) Below is Christian Thibaudeau‘s latest protocol from t-nation. Im as skeptical as anyone regarding the fine line between marketing & research & we all know how to make cheap surge & replace grow with our own preferred protein etc.
PROTOCOL 1 (1-3 times per week, when working on a weak area)
Workout - 60 = Alpha-GPC
W - 40 = 1 FINiBAR
W - 30 = 2 scoops Surge Workout Fuel
W - 15 = 2 scoops Surge Recovery
During workout (early half) = 1 FINiBAR
During workout (later half) = 1 scoop Surge Workout Fuel
W + 15 = Grow! Whey 2 scoops
W + 90 minutes = Grow! Whey 2 scoops
PROTOCOL 2 (other workouts)
Workout - 60 = Alpha-GPC
W - 40 = 1 FINiBAR
W - 30 = 2 scoops Surge Workout Fuel
During workout (early half) = 1 FINiBAR
During workout (later half) = 1 scoop Surge Workout Fuel
W + 15 = 1 scoop Surge Recovery, 1 scoop Grow! Whey
W + 90 = Grow! Whey 2 scoops
Note they don’t make an NO supp so they wont recommend one. They also recommend protein pulsing through the day (best article ive found so far on it: http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/protein_size_&_frequency.pdf - (not the exact article I was looking for but by same author)
This is a good article on nutrient timing: Nutrient Timing - When Science and Marketing Collide | Wannabebig
And Alan Aragons take on t-nats claims: Supplement Marketing on Steroids by Alan Aragon | BodyRecomposition - The Home of Lyle McDonald
My Q is, have you experimented with obtaining an insulin spike DURING the workout, as opposed to straight afterwards, as many of us have been doing for as long as we can remember? Have you tried it? What were your thoughts, results & recommendations?
PROTOCOL 1 (1-3 times per week, when working on a weak area)
Workout - 60 = Alpha-GPC
W - 40 = 1 FINiBAR
W - 30 = 2 scoops Surge Workout Fuel
W - 15 = 2 scoops Surge Recovery
During workout (early half) = 1 FINiBAR
During workout (later half) = 1 scoop Surge Workout Fuel
W + 15 = Grow! Whey 2 scoops
W + 90 minutes = Grow! Whey 2 scoops
PROTOCOL 2 (other workouts)
Workout - 60 = Alpha-GPC
W - 40 = 1 FINiBAR
W - 30 = 2 scoops Surge Workout Fuel
During workout (early half) = 1 FINiBAR
During workout (later half) = 1 scoop Surge Workout Fuel
W + 15 = 1 scoop Surge Recovery, 1 scoop Grow! Whey
W + 90 = Grow! Whey 2 scoops
Note they don’t make an NO supp so they wont recommend one. They also recommend protein pulsing through the day (best article ive found so far on it: http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/protein_size_&_frequency.pdf - (not the exact article I was looking for but by same author)
This is a good article on nutrient timing: Nutrient Timing - When Science and Marketing Collide | Wannabebig
And Alan Aragons take on t-nats claims: Supplement Marketing on Steroids by Alan Aragon | BodyRecomposition - The Home of Lyle McDonald
My Q is, have you experimented with obtaining an insulin spike DURING the workout, as opposed to straight afterwards, as many of us have been doing for as long as we can remember? Have you tried it? What were your thoughts, results & recommendations?