Natural Anxiety/Depression Supplement
- 10-27-2009, 08:59 PM
Natural Anxiety/Depression Supplement
Looking to put together a supplement to avoid drugs like Prozac, Abilify, Lexapro.
Yes I know they cannot take the place of the drugs, but anything that may help in this are will be good. I am thinking
I am also wondering about l-dopa is this safe to take for this reason.
Also any herbs that may work.
- 10-27-2009, 09:01 PM
10-27-2009, 09:09 PM
10-27-2009, 09:10 PM
Good answer, too bad it is for my wife, alot of the other don't apply. Plus the stuff she is on is making her gain alot of weight, not good.
10-27-2009, 09:22 PM
5HTP all the way. Takes some time to dial in your ideal dose, but it works well and is side effect free. Holy Basil or Relora during the daytime will keep anxiety at bay nicely.
10-27-2009, 09:26 PM
10-28-2009, 09:15 AM
10-28-2009, 10:47 AM
10-28-2009, 10:58 AM
Research the 5HTP, you may not want to use it for a while
Also as far as sides go lexapro is low, and usually no weight gain
10-28-2009, 11:52 AM
10-28-2009, 11:59 AM
And SJW f's with birth control effectiveness as well as causing insomnia in many...but you can maybe figure that out via trial and error as well as doing some real research.
10-28-2009, 12:00 PM
If it's mild and you've already been diagnosed with nothing serious then Bio has good suggestions... If you're self diagnosing then i'd say none of the above until you've seen a doctor. Don't **** with your head if it's already ****ing with you first.
10-28-2009, 12:02 PM
Well my mother takes it and no weight gain, and her doctor said low sides, so i made a broad assumption, my mistake...anti depressants have a variety of side effects, some small, some large, some nothing at all depending on who you are, much like birth control for women, they may go through 5-10 different types before they find one that does not make them fat and crazy...if it is a real issue with depression or anxiety, then a prescription will be a good option, or maybe an herbal, with these things it is trial and error...
10-28-2009, 12:18 PM
10-28-2009, 02:12 PM
10-28-2009, 02:13 PM
First off stay away from phenibut. Too much side effects. Works great short term. Then if you've used it for awhile you know what I'm talking about.
5-htp with sAME is good start. Don't try to mix too many things at once. This is when you get into trouble and this is the from years of experience. Even maybe 5-htp alone. 50-100mg 2-3x a day. After a month or 2 she should notice a big difference. This should help with both anxiety and depresssion.
If this doesn't work you can combine with alcar or tyrosine but that's the next step.
ôLord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life"- John 6:68
WHAT has science offered?
10-28-2009, 02:16 PM
10-28-2009, 02:19 PM
Vitamin D can be added to that list, maybe putting together a daytime\nighttime formula would work.
I am wondering if this list would be in parallel with the issues found on anti-depressants for example, not all antidepressants work for everyone if they are all depressed, one shoe size does not fit all as your issues may be affecting a different part of the brain. Which is why they ask you "How are you feeling on such and such".
St. Johns Wort did nothing for me, and I am not prone to depression, but my environment does cause stress\anxiety\depression (SAD its mine..unless its been in circulation in an official capacity > 6 years )..
After some research I tried out melatonin at night, and 5-htp in the day and I felt "normal".. Also plenty of exercise as mentioned earlier..
I have and do use 1-Carboxy from USP Labs at 1/4 teaspoon when I have anxiety at night, and I sleep pretty good, and wake up feeling refreshed sometimes, but I dont feel all depressed.
So to add to the list:
1-Carboxy or a high extract of L-Dopa
These items should be sorted by night time and daytime formulation.. Can you imagine someone taking L-Dopa, 5-htp, Chamomile Tea and Vitamin D before going in to work... Talk about nausea!
10-28-2009, 02:29 PM
I take 5-htp and relora. Excellent combination works very well, relora helps with fat loss controlling cortisol, and both of the have appetite suppression effects when taken 20 min before meals. I take 400-500mg of 5-htp and 900mg of relora daily.
10-28-2009, 02:34 PM
Over time, this therapy heals the brain. No need anymore for any SSRI's MOI's or anything for me. Problem is solved once and for all. In fact, for me, the 5-HTP works better than any prescription I was ever given. Even after weeks and weeks on them and it's affects are immediate.
10-28-2009, 02:35 PM
10-28-2009, 02:46 PM
I found 150mg to be perfect for me but I'm 260 lbs and have also used 5-HTP as a sleep aid in the past so I may have a bit of a tolorence built up? Start with a 50. Only take it when you need to. You don't want to be popping these all the time. The trick is to learn to control it with your CBT and the 5-HTP will help you do that.
Best to you buddy. You can beat it man. There is light at the end of the tunnel. I've been to hell and back so I can say that.
10-28-2009, 03:19 PM
To the OP...
You are on the right track, but try to locate some Lithium Orotate.. It's prescribed, but can also be gotten as a supplement from few health stores and compounding pharmacies. about 180mg twice per day and you will notice a difference before a month. Lookup all the benefits of lithium, you'll be very impressed and wonder why you never tried it yet.
and be careful with the 5-HTP dosages, you CAN overdose, and you CAN die from an OD
10-28-2009, 03:25 PM
Anything up to 200 to 400 mg a day is safe for most but is considered the limit.
10-28-2009, 03:28 PM
I am currently taking lexapro and can vouch that the sides are minimal. I have noticed that the feeling of "full" changes when on Lexapro and that is why some people see unwanted weight gain. Just an FYI.
10-28-2009, 05:04 PM
You might not take this advice but pick this book up for your wife:
Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy by David D. Burns
This book has been proven to help millions of people with mild depression and even those with more severe depression. This is not a joke. This book was suggested to me by my psychologist and it helps a lot more and a lot quicker than trying to find the right pill. People with mild depression need to learn ways to avoid certain behaviors and certain ways of thinking. This book helps people identify their bad behaviors and ways of thinking and helps them to approach life at a different angle, one which doesn't perpetuate the cycle of negativity they've found themselves in. It's $8 and definitely worth a shot considering the monthly cost of prescription medication.
10-28-2009, 05:11 PM
10-28-2009, 05:39 PM
Most 5HTP will convert in the blood stream. There is thought to be a risk to the heart if there is too much serotonin in the blood stream. Very little 5HTP will get through the BBB. It is supposed to make a difference, its a mood brightener basically.
To get s. syndrome you'd need to eat it in such massive amounts that you'd get a toxic reaction from just about any supplement.
10-28-2009, 05:50 PM
I've never had much luck with herbals as far as anxiety/depression go.
Actually, I take that back. One herb has helped me tremendously, and that's no lie. I'm finally happy with my situation concerning anxiety, and I have been off of prescription meds since early July (my own doings, Zoloft was fucking me up badly).
What is this magical herb? Pahahaha, I'll bet you can guess.
10-28-2009, 06:01 PM
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