ephedra 'alkaloids'/ ephedra HCL

**SCORPIO** · 03-07-2004, 05:12 PM

On most thermos the ingredients list ephedra or ephedra alkaloids. Since the HCL is pharmacutical grade (more potent), how many mg HCL is equal to mg of alkaloids. I was thinking that 25mg HCL was ~ to about 250 mg alk. Let me know what you guys think.

**Lifeguard** · 03-07-2004, 05:24 PM

I've taken ephedra and ephedrine, and the ratio is not that drastic, I would say that 15mg of HCL is the equivalent to about 25mg of herbal stuff. But that is just me, other people might react differently to it.

**SCORPIO** · 03-07-2004, 05:29 PM

Thanks LG, I'm making my own ECA. I ordered a stock pile of Vasopro, ephedra HCL. I use 1 tab 25mg of it with 200mg caffiene for an awsome thermo. I can also add the aspirin if I wanted and get the complete ECA stack.

ItriedtoripoffBobosonowIamgonehaveaniceday · 03-10-2004, 11:22 PM

aspirin is not necessary and may be detrimental to the stack

**Cuffs** · 03-11-2004, 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by MaNiaK1027

aspirin is not necessary and may be detrimental to the stack

Can you elaborate on why/how aspirin may be detrimental to the stack? I'm not saying you're wrong, but this is the first I've heard about that.

**Bouncer79** · 03-11-2004, 01:55 PM

There are many mixed opinions on aspirin with and ECA. It's intended purpose was putting less stress on the heart, however, it can cause extra stomach problems with constant use. I don't see it having any adverse effect on the Ephedrine though.

**jweave23** · 03-11-2004, 03:43 PM

READ THIS THREAD:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=203382

Aspirin is not necessary at all, it inhibits protein synthesis. I believe there is more at Avant's board regarding this issue.

**jmh80** · 03-29-2004, 06:56 PM

I thought I read a while back in a mag. that Ephedrine HCl is better than ephedra. Does anyone else agree/disagree with this?

If so, what are some of the best brands of ephedrine HCl to buy? I saw Vasopro above, but have also seen Pure Ephedrine by the makers of Stacker on Vitaglo. Anyone think this would be ok to get before the ban?

Thanks.

**Brodus** · 03-30-2004, 05:31 AM

I posted this on another forum.

TO my knowledge, there is only one place to get PURE Ephedrine HCL with no guifenesin on the web:

http://www.thestimulantpeople.com/cg.../10082782.html

http://www.thestimulantpeople.com/cg...B10072379.html

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