[SCORPIO]

On most thermos the ingredients list ephedra or ephedra alkaloids. Since the HCL is pharmacutical grade (more potent), how many mg HCL is equal to mg of alkaloids. I was thinking that 25mg HCL was ~ to about 250 mg alk. Let me know what you guys think.

[Lifeguard]

I've taken ephedra and ephedrine, and the ratio is not that drastic, I would say that 15mg of HCL is the equivalent to about 25mg of herbal stuff. But that is just me, other people might react differently to it.

[SCORPIO]

Thanks LG, I'm making my own ECA. I ordered a stock pile of Vasopro, ephedra HCL. I use 1 tab 25mg of it with 200mg caffiene for an awsome thermo. I can also add the aspirin if I wanted and get the complete ECA stack.

[ItriedtoripoffBobosonowIamgonehaveaniceday]

aspirin is not necessary and may be detrimental to the stack

[Cuffs]

aspirin is not necessary and may be detrimental to the stack

Can you elaborate on why/how aspirin may be detrimental to the stack? I'm not saying you're wrong, but this is the first I've heard about that.

[Bouncer79]

There are many mixed opinions on aspirin with and ECA. It's intended purpose was putting less stress on the heart, however, it can cause extra stomach problems with constant use. I don't see it having any adverse effect on the Ephedrine though.

[jweave23]

READ THIS THREAD:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hread****203382

Aspirin is not necessary at all, it inhibits protein synthesis. I believe there is more at Avant's board regarding this issue.

[jmh80]

I thought I read a while back in a mag. that Ephedrine HCl is better than ephedra. Does anyone else agree/disagree with this?

If so, what are some of the best brands of ephedrine HCl to buy? I saw Vasopro above, but have also seen Pure Ephedrine by the makers of Stacker on Vitaglo. Anyone think this would be ok to get before the ban?

Thanks.

[Brodus]

I posted this on another forum.

TO my knowledge, there is only one place to get PURE Ephedrine HCL with no guifenesin on the web:

http://www.thestimulantpeople.com/cg.../10082782.html

http://www.thestimulantpeople.com/cg...B10072379.html