- 11-08-2009, 08:09 PM
- 11-08-2009, 10:33 PM
11-10-2009, 01:00 PM
01-09-2010, 05:44 PM
4g Beta Alanine
20mg 1,3 Dimethylamyline
4g Citrulline Malate
I'm new to making my own preworkouts. I haven't gotten my supplies from NP yet, and I want to add Agmatine whenever it's in stock. For reference, 3 scoops of Jack3d gives me 4/5 pumps and 5/5 focus and almost feeling high after. Anyone have an opinion for me?
And what good does waxy maize do??
01-09-2010, 07:21 PM
01-10-2010, 12:20 AM
CEE doesn't work. I'm not bashing all creatines, but ethyl ester actually ruins creatine. Search it.
01-10-2010, 03:35 AM
Anyone ever try putting together the ingredients in Slim Xtreme are pre workout? I was looking at Nutra and found most the stuff in bulk and really wanted to try it but it gets a little spendy...
01-10-2010, 04:22 AM
i think universal Shock therapy is a great foundation, and you need flavoring, and it has goof with that, and it reasonably price 30-35 bucks for 50 servings.
NO Super Pump Complex
Arginine AKG **
Citrulline Malate **
Muscle Volumizing Complex
Tricreatine Matrix (TCM) (Creatine Gluconate, Creatine Orotate, Creatine AKG) **
Betaine Anhydrous **
Beta Alanine **
Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide **
Energy & Nootropic Complex
Choline Bitartrate **
S-Methylxanthine Complex™ (Caffeine, Theobromine, Theophylline) **
Yerba Mate **
Evodiamine (Standardized Evodia Rutaecarpa Extract) **
Green Tea Extract (Standardized For 60% EGCG) **
R-ALA (R-Alpha Lipoic Acid) **
NAC (N-Acetyl Cysteine) **
Grapeseed Extract (Standardized For 95% Polyphenols) **
Electrolyte & PH Delivery Complex
Glucose Polymers **
Sodium Bicarbonate **
Potassium Phosphate **
Magnesium Phosphate **
Youve got all that in there, some of that stuff would be hard to mix, to much to get in all in there.
On top of that id add
-Low dose Arichindonic Acid
-1 gram more beta alanine
-maybe 2-4 grams bulks cissus
-4 cap Prime
-1 cap oxyelite pro or 12.5 mg ephedrine(only for advanced stim users)
-3 more grams citruline malate or some Citruvol XS
-5 grams BCAA's
The pumps and energy off that would be literally crazy
Im going to employ this in about a week, when all my stuff comes in.
01-10-2010, 04:23 AM
01-10-2010, 12:58 PM
So far the best pre-workout mix I've made consisted of....
1g Vit C
3g Kre-Alkalyn (Also consisted of 120mg ALA and 10mg Vanadyl)
And a serving of Lipo 6 (Best cheap thermo-stim I have ever had)
Soon enough I plan on making an addition of 10g Glutamine.
01-10-2010, 06:35 PM
2.5g of Beta Alanine
3-4g of creatine mono
1g of alcar
2.5mg of yohimbine hcl
500mg of green tea
24g of whey
all in water
same minus yohimbe and green tea.. add 24g more of whey all with milk
01-10-2010, 09:45 PM
01-11-2010, 05:34 PM
In the past Ive used a home-made combo that looked like this:
BCAA 4:1:1 ~10 gram
Taurine 1 gram
MCC or Di Creatine Malate (I usually used GM, which BTW takes care of the Taurine too)
ALCAR 1 gram
GTE 1 ML
Alpha GPC 150 mg
Insulin mimetic of choice (mine almost always is Banaba- 1/2 TSP-use NP bulk)
sometimes BA- at small dosage because I cant tolerate the parasthesia
I liked ALL my bases covered when homebrewing.
01-12-2010, 01:29 PM
5g Diarginine Malate
whatever stim (tyrosine/synphrine/geranium)
I love cell mass. I've tried other things to add with it (epozine, white flood, primed ultra ect) and a good dose of diargine malate does the trick. One of the reasons I experimented was to see if arginine really make a difference performance wise. It does. And i like LG Sciences, but I take my di arg malate with the creatine and sometimes on hour or more before working out and taking it with my creatine does not hurt the effectiveness.
I take cell mass insead of xplode simply for cost (i bet it would be 2-3 scoops of xplode to get the creatine in one scoop of cell mass) and the fact that I really don't respond to other things typically in pre workouts (citrulline, beta alanine ect.).
01-13-2010, 12:01 AM
What are people doing to mask the taste? I have tried making a few my self but really struggle with taste especially when BCAA are in the mix.
01-13-2010, 01:11 AM
01-13-2010, 10:36 AM
I usually buy one of my ingredients flavored. Like flavored creatine, or bcaas.
Otherwise Crystal light powder, gatorade powder, or 10 calorie vitamin water.
01-13-2010, 11:07 AM
i like to mix one serving of extend with whatever i want to use. then i can throw in 10g bulk bcaas and some aakg and it doesnt taste bad
CELTIC LABS REP
01-13-2010, 11:10 AM
Wal Mart sells a calorie free drink like Crystal Light and the fruit punch will cover up anything! The best part is you need hardly any and a tube will last you months.
01-13-2010, 11:20 AM
01-13-2010, 12:24 PM
01-13-2010, 11:36 PM
01-13-2010, 11:39 PM
01-13-2010, 11:47 PM
Yeah I just tried the wally world brand of crystal light (cherry limeade) and it helped mask the taste of AEE pretty well. If you don't know, AEE has a soapy almost alcohol like taste and I can taste it my burps even when I mix it in my protein shake. That flavored water stuff works pretty well. Will post when I make the homemade preworkout made strictly from bulk supps.
01-14-2010, 01:14 PM
5 grams CM or DiCreatine Malate
5 grams GMS
3 grams Citrulline Malate
3 grams Beta Alanine
1.5 grams Alcar
3-5 grams AAKG
By the way this was a bad SOB for pumps and endurance, would have been better with some NP Geranium caps if I had some. I used to be able to make this taste just like fruit punch though if it got on white clothes it was over, wally world drink mix will stain with a vengeance.
01-14-2010, 05:37 PM
01-14-2010, 08:08 PM
Just mixed AAKG, Citrulline Malate, Beta-Alanine, ALCAR (horrible vinegar taste) with 2 packets of the walmart brand crystal light cherry limeade mix. Tastes like koolaid!
01-14-2010, 10:58 PM
wow.. you guys are very creative... my pre-workout looks like this:
200 mg prop
1 BIG BAD ATTITUDE
I know, I am so un-original...
01-15-2010, 12:20 AM
01-15-2010, 10:47 AM
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