- 01-10-2010, 04:35 PM
- 01-10-2010, 07:45 PM
Damn I knew it was too good to be true...
- 01-11-2010, 03:34 PM
In the past Ive used a home-made combo that looked like this:
BCAA 4:1:1 ~10 gram
Taurine 1 gram
MCC or Di Creatine Malate (I usually used GM, which BTW takes care of the Taurine too)
ALCAR 1 gram
GTE 1 ML
Alpha GPC 150 mg
Insulin mimetic of choice (mine almost always is Banaba- 1/2 TSP-use NP bulk)
sometimes BA- at small dosage because I cant tolerate the parasthesia
I liked ALL my bases covered when homebrewing.
01-12-2010, 11:29 AM
5g Diarginine Malate
whatever stim (tyrosine/synphrine/geranium)
I love cell mass. I've tried other things to add with it (epozine, white flood, primed ultra ect) and a good dose of diargine malate does the trick. One of the reasons I experimented was to see if arginine really make a difference performance wise. It does. And i like LG Sciences, but I take my di arg malate with the creatine and sometimes on hour or more before working out and taking it with my creatine does not hurt the effectiveness.
I take cell mass insead of xplode simply for cost (i bet it would be 2-3 scoops of xplode to get the creatine in one scoop of cell mass) and the fact that I really don't respond to other things typically in pre workouts (citrulline, beta alanine ect.).
01-12-2010, 10:01 PM
What are people doing to mask the taste? I have tried making a few my self but really struggle with taste especially when BCAA are in the mix.
01-12-2010, 11:11 PM
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates
01-13-2010, 08:36 AM
I usually buy one of my ingredients flavored. Like flavored creatine, or bcaas.
Otherwise Crystal light powder, gatorade powder, or 10 calorie vitamin water.
01-13-2010, 09:07 AM
i like to mix one serving of extend with whatever i want to use. then i can throw in 10g bulk bcaas and some aakg and it doesnt taste bad
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01-13-2010, 09:10 AM
Wal Mart sells a calorie free drink like Crystal Light and the fruit punch will cover up anything! The best part is you need hardly any and a tube will last you months.
01-13-2010, 09:20 AM
01-13-2010, 10:24 AM
01-13-2010, 09:36 PM
01-13-2010, 09:39 PM
01-13-2010, 09:47 PM
Yeah I just tried the wally world brand of crystal light (cherry limeade) and it helped mask the taste of AEE pretty well. If you don't know, AEE has a soapy almost alcohol like taste and I can taste it my burps even when I mix it in my protein shake. That flavored water stuff works pretty well. Will post when I make the homemade preworkout made strictly from bulk supps.
01-14-2010, 11:14 AM
5 grams CM or DiCreatine Malate
5 grams GMS
3 grams Citrulline Malate
3 grams Beta Alanine
1.5 grams Alcar
3-5 grams AAKG
By the way this was a bad SOB for pumps and endurance, would have been better with some NP Geranium caps if I had some. I used to be able to make this taste just like fruit punch though if it got on white clothes it was over, wally world drink mix will stain with a vengeance.
01-14-2010, 03:37 PM
01-14-2010, 06:08 PM
Just mixed AAKG, Citrulline Malate, Beta-Alanine, ALCAR (horrible vinegar taste) with 2 packets of the walmart brand crystal light cherry limeade mix. Tastes like koolaid!
01-14-2010, 08:58 PM
wow.. you guys are very creative... my pre-workout looks like this:
200 mg prop
1 BIG BAD ATTITUDE
I know, I am so un-original...
01-14-2010, 10:20 PM
01-15-2010, 08:47 AM
01-15-2010, 09:31 AM
i prefer test suspension pre-workout, burns a bit but its worth it
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01-17-2010, 03:48 PM
- Allows you to live your hobby outside the gym
- Somewhat skeptical of the proprietary blends on the market
- Scientific studies are doen with much higher levels of amino acids/ herbs than what supplement makers use.
- Did i mention its a heck of a lot cheaper?
- you get exactly what you want.
01-17-2010, 04:37 PM
...and U can pick what exactly U want whetever u want: imagine U've worked till late someday, then U go to gym late at night, and U have to wake up in the morning next day. - If u got some pre-wkt with stims, u'll sleep like sht. But u can make some "blend" for this situations, picking up some "non-stims" pre-wkt.
If u go better with some brands then others, u can use those insted of others...
and make everething funnier..lol
I like to research about that. What not to put it in my advantage? make my own blends of supls? pre-wkt, post-wkt, pre-sleep, blends of protein during thge day...
01-17-2010, 08:04 PM
01-17-2010, 09:48 PM
GPLC + beta-alanine + 1/2 scoop of whey isolate in Polm juice
01-19-2010, 12:55 PM
01-25-2010, 07:12 PM
01-25-2010, 10:46 PM
Update on my brew:
1 scoop Jack3d for the caffeine (figured out too much caffeine lessens pump)
4.5g GPLC (found out this DOES NOT mix with water, so put 3 scoops directly in the hatch and swallowed 15 minutes before taking the rest of the brew)
2g Citruline Mallate
14g Gatorade for taste and insulin spike
Compared to NO Explode, Black Powder, Super Pump, and 3 scoops Jack3d. This is also with very little food today, class schedule ran longer than I expected so I only had an apple, detour bar, and power bar, from 8am-4am workout so results may be slightly off:
Best pump to date 5/5
Great focus 4/5
No crash 5/5
Pretty good endurance 3.5/5 (heavy reps this week)
Once I get my shipment, I'll add L-Norvaline,a litte AEE, and BCAA's. Also will be using Diesel Test Hardcore for the first time.
01-25-2010, 11:43 PM
Low carb protein bars are the best for pre-workout Homebrews.
01-29-2010, 03:59 PM
My pre treatment has been:
-90 Alpha GPC (sometimes, hjaven't noticed much here, 2-3 pills NOW brand 300mg pills)
-45 1,3 NP geranium extract (definite amphetamine effects, wakes me up but not 100% sure stronger, definitely avoid taking this more than 2-3x a week for tolerance issues)
-30 eat some oatmeal
-15 PSlin + 50g WMS+ ~45g whey + 1/2 caffeine pill (100mg, adding caffeine has given me a lot, the pslin is ok. I drink 1/2 to 3/4 of the shake at first, and the rest during my workout.
+60 20g casein hydrolysate + ~3-5g leucine + 5-7g creatine mono
30 minutes after that I crush a huge meal.
I have actually gained quite a bit of strength on this, but some fat too (bulking diet). I prefer it and think it is more scientifically supported than my previous huge postworkout carb shake blasts.
02-15-2010, 07:57 PM
02-15-2010, 08:38 PM
02-23-2010, 08:09 PM
Well This is not the cheapest way but my arms grow 2 inches when I take this:
3 Scoops Jack3d
3 scoops of X-Tend
60grams of Waxy Maize
60 grams of whey
60 grams of buckwheat
helluva lotta h20, and a helluva lotta INTENSITY
and presto, Your the biggest dude in the gym!
02-23-2010, 08:12 PM
Enoxide is a perfect pre workout minus all the stimulants ,
you will have no problem sleeping.
02-24-2010, 03:59 AM
doesnt creatine have a half life of 30 minutes in water or something?
03-30-2011, 09:21 PM
6 caps APS CN
1 cap slin-sane
3g Beta Alanine
5g Citruline malate
Applied Nutriceuticals Lipotrophin-AM/PM Log - http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/173270-japs-cuttin-summer.html#post2832457
06-16-2011, 06:13 PM
A halflife in water? Creatine will not degrade in water within 24 hours to any appreciable extent.
Some of these pre's need a lot of work.
The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
06-18-2011, 01:56 PM
06-22-2011, 02:26 AM
08-17-2011, 10:28 AM
10gms bcaa nitrate
100gms carb blend
Can't be beat
Everything I say is fictional and for entertainment purposes only. Do not ask me for sources. I dont have any.
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