I agree with GMG760. I have run Epistane brand twice and Havoc once. The first trial each of the epi's I did not stack with any other PH/DS/AS, just some ancillary/support supps. They were ran equally as 30/30/40/40/40/40. Both had very mild sides and after the first week the desired effects were well established. I did have a higher tendency towards aggression while on the Epistane, however cannot definitively attribute this to that compound. Overall my impression of both were satisfactory. What I like best about this particular PH variety is the site-specific estrogen blocker. I have never experienced, (knocks on wood), any semblance of gyno while on nor during PCT. I am currently on week 3 of a six week run of Epistane and PP's 1-T. Aside from a minimal amount of shedding and mostly contact related acne from the transdermal, It is going extremely well. With a CKD and solid 6 day cardio AM, weight PM, I am seeing some benefits mostly in the area of vascularity and muscle separation. I am having some stubbornly persistent lumbar back pain(pump) though. PITA for sure but tolerable and an acceptable side to manage.
BTW, where exactly did you read that the manufacturer of Epistane was producing an under-dosed product? Was there some kind of analysis done to corroborate the claim? My interest is peaked.