increasing androgen receptor density palcar or alcar?

[flightposite]

which is better for increasing androgen receptor?

[UNCnate]

which is better for increasing androgen receptor?

PLCAR.

[1HP]

PLCAR.

Do you have evidence PLCAR is more effective at this specifically then ALCAR?

[andrew732]

which is better for increasing androgen receptor?

PLCAR is the more effective of the two but L-carnitine-L-Tartrate would be the best carnitine for sensitizing one's androgen receptors.

[strategicmove]

which is better for increasing androgen receptor density?

L-Carnitine-L-Tartrate.

[SamBoz19]

PLCAR is the more effective of the two but L-carnitine-L-Tartrate would be the best carnitine for sensitizing one's androgen receptors.

L-Carnitine-L-Tartrate.

^^^These two gentlemen would be correct.

Cheers!

[giantbrandon]

L-Carnitine-L-Tartrate.

where dose one get this

[strategicmove]

where dose one get this

CustomCapsules.com

[Delita420]

where dose one get this

this is what the now foods brand uses.

L-Carnitine (L-Carnipure®) (From L-Carnitine Tartrate)

[flightposite]

thanks everone for the help/info.

[UNCnate]

PLCAR is the more effective of the two but L-carnitine-L-Tartrate would be the best carnitine for sensitizing one's androgen receptors.

This.

There are a lot of carnitine salts out there.

[tnubs]

CustomCapsules.com

looking on the page, but its only showing me alcar when i type in "carnitine" and nothing comes up when i type thoe whole name. am i missing something or was it removed? unless its l-carnitine fumerate?

[jaydollars]

Ok so I feel like an idiot, what in the world is ALCAR or PLCAR, some type of caritine you say, does this help you getter bigger, shed fat...can someone post a link or something

Or just give a quick explanation...

[tnubs]

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/n...100-grams.html <-alcar

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/r...100-grams.html <-plcar

lol their names and explanations but basically alcar is the base and they play with them to make them more stabile in the body as far as i understand

[jaydollars]

Ok so these desciptions make these things look like miracle drugs, anyone have any personal experiences they can share???

[dsade]

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/n...100-grams.html <-alcar

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/r...100-grams.html <-plcar

lol their names and explanations but basically alcar is the base and they play with them to make them more stabile in the body as far as i understand

Carnitine is the base...the propionate or Acetate is the ester attached, which changes the tissue affinity and properties. In addition, once the ester is removed INSIDE of the body, each ester has its own effects.

[tnubs]

so tartrate vs fumerate on androgen receptor density? similar or is tartrate going to be a lot better?

[Bionic]

I have a 3-parter so thanks, in advance. What would be the better ester to maximize the use of exogenous androgens? The second part of the question would be, what would the protocol look like? For example, would you supplement with one of the Car's before the androgen cycle or would you cycle them concurrently? Dosages to elicit AR response?

[dsade]

so tartrate vs fumerate on androgen receptor density? similar or is tartrate going to be a lot better?

Tartrate is the only form I have seen an actual study on. The rest are just extrapolated out.

My bet is still on PLCAR, based on years of self-experimentation with various forms. Combination is also effective.

[dsade]

I have a 3-parter so thanks, in advance. What would be the better ester to maximize the use of exogenous androgens? The second part of the question would be, what would the protocol look like? For example, would you supplement with one of the Car's before the androgen cycle or would you cycle them concurrently? Dosages to elicit AR response?

This is still a new area...see the post above.

I use 2-2.5 grams twice a day at all times, especially during cycle. It makes a FINE primer pre-cycle, helps to maintain response during cycle, and re-primes AR Post Cycle.