As you might have read in some of my other post, I am am a injured fire fighter facing possibility of losing foot due to a line of duty injury. Have been doing weight training and HIIT regularly to increase or at least maintain muscle mass and lose body fat. I used to use eca all the time about 5 years ago and got to the point they had no effects(everyone must have known what they were talking about when they said you needed to take breaks). Anyways I really need to get my weight reduced as much as I can to alleviate stress on my injured leg and foot. I was considering adding slim xtreme or hyperdrive to help me a little cause I have plateaued. I wanted to go as long as possible on clean diet and cardio before adding anything for weight loss. Other supplements I use is citruline mallate, beta alinine, glutamine, fish oils, and bcaa's. Also script for 300mg/wk test and am using ghrp6 and frag 176. Thanks for any input or suggestions. I was considering these to supps cause many have said they did not respond well to stims, like me, and these have worked well