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Do you really have to take choline with piracetam.

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    Do you really have to take choline with piracetam.


    Hello:

    I've just bought some piracetam, and reading around on the internet, it seems that piracetam is often advised to be taken with choline citrate or 'AGC'.

    a) Is this really necessary? I don't want to keep buying these gross tasting products that I have to fit into my daily regimen.
    b) Do I have to use choline citrate or AGC, or can I just eat an egg? What about lecithin (although I would rather just eat an egg)?
    c) Can any choline source be adequately converted into the type useful in conjunction with piracetam?

    Thanks.



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    To get the most of Piracetam you'll need some form of choline. It increases its effectiveness and you won't get any bad headaches (which happens if you don't take choline)

    I was using lecithin and eating eggs but recently switched to Alpha GPC and noticed a huge difference!! My mood instantly improved and I don't get mentally tired like I used to.

    If you're on a budget - get triple strenght lecithin from NOW and if you can afford it - buy some alpha GPC

    wish Nutraplanet started carrying alpha GPC in bulk....

    Good luck!

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    Thanks.

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    There are other sources of choline too, one being DMAE. AGPC is kinda pricey

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    Choline Citrate by Primaforce 500 grams, ONLY $19.99!!!

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    Choline citrate or bitartrate are plenty fine for this use.
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    So what are the benefits of the choline piracetam stack?

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    Originally Posted by bmw8591 View Post
    So what are the benefits of the choline piracetam stack?
    In my experience, rapidity of thought. Enhanced creativity, mixed with an enhanced analytical side ( a bolstering of both, rather than enhancement of one hemisphere at the expense of the other), improved memory formation and recall, and - depening on how you interepret the above - increased motivation to work and create.
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    i just use lecithin, works for me

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    Originally Posted by login211 View Post
    i just use lecithin, works for me
    Just received my bulk piracetam from NP. I have lecithin caps 1200 mgs. Will this work? If yes, how many mgs / day of lecithin do I take?

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    Originally Posted by luclyluciano View Post
    Just received my bulk piracetam from NP. I have lecithin caps 1200 mgs. Will this work? If yes, how many mgs / day of lecithin do I take?
    You should take 4-6 per day per 2-3 grams of Piracetam.
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    Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    You should take 4-6 per day per 2-3 grams of Piracetam.
    Thanks dsade....I assume you mean 4-6 caps. How does regular lecithin compare with alpha-GPC. Some say they noticed a big difference over reular lecithin or choline.

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    Originally Posted by luclyluciano View Post
    Thanks dsade....I assume you mean 4-6 caps. How does regular lecithin compare with alpha-GPC. Some say they noticed a big difference over reular lecithin or choline.
    Alpha-GPC is amazing...very potent with effects beyond simply a source of choline. It has an energizing effect, as well as increasing focus.

    I ended up including it in my intraworkout formula, and was VERY pleased with this workout enhancement/Recovery aspect.
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    I agree that Choline + Piracetam is necessary, however when I dose them together I get nauseus- so I take my Piracetam in the morning, and Alpha-GPC later in the day.

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    Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Alpha-GPC is amazing...very potent with effects beyond simply a source of choline. It has an energizing effect, as well as increasing focus.

    I ended up including it in my intraworkout formula, and was VERY pleased with this workout enhancement/Recovery aspect.
    That Alpha gpc is expensive stuff! 150 grams at $66! If I dosed at 6 grams per day that is 25 days per container.....is this right?

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    You don't need to take that much!!! if you decide to go with alpha GPC 500mg/day is plenty! It's the lecithin that you need 6 grams/day but alpha GPC is much stronger.

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    Originally Posted by rottie76 View Post
    You don't need to take that much!!! if you decide to go with alpha GPC 500mg/day is plenty! It's the lecithin that you need 6 grams/day but alpha GPC is much stronger.
    Correct.

    I reserve Alpha-GPC for my intraworkout drink.
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    Originally Posted by rottie76 View Post
    You don't need to take that much!!! if you decide to go with alpha GPC 500mg/day is plenty! It's the lecithin that you need 6 grams/day but alpha GPC is much stronger.
    Good to know! What's the differrence between Alpha GPC and Choline Citrate. On BN there are mixed reviews which is better.

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    Anyone know if Piracetam works best with food or empty stomach.

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