testoPRO and formestane

chaz92398

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It's been a while since I've worked out. I was going to take some TD formestane as I wanted an extra boost in test to "jump start" my strength/gains. I understand the free test boosting characteristics of testoPRO would be benefical, but I am unsure of how I-3-C would affect my already lowered estrogen.

The write-up states, "Indole-3-Carbinol helps the body to modulate estrogen to degrade into the healthier of the alternatives, as opposed to the other."

Would this "modulation" further knock my estrogen into oblivion or would it continue to help modulate it, keeping me at low, but healthy levels? If I am correct in remembering, ATD destroyed estrogen causing many, including myself, to have a low sex drive. That would make this a horrible stack in my opinion. Thanks for your help.
 
chaz92398 said:
It's been a while since I've worked out. I was going to take some TD formestane as I wanted an extra boost in test to "jump start" my strength/gains. I understand the free test boosting characteristics of testoPRO would be benefical, but I am unsure of how I-3-C would affect my already lowered estrogen.

The write-up states, "Indole-3-Carbinol helps the body to modulate estrogen to degrade into the healthier of the alternatives, as opposed to the other."

Would this "modulation" further knock my estrogen into oblivion or would it continue to help modulate it, keeping me at low, but healthy levels. If I am correct in remembering, ATD destroyed estrogen causing many, including myself, to have a low sex drive. That would make this a horrible stack in my opinion. Thanks for your help.
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I honestly cannot answer that as I do not know enough about I3C you could PM andrew732 or crazyfool our other reps as they have a lot more knowledge in that field.
 
chaz92398 said:
It's been a while since I've worked out. I was going to take some TD formestane as I wanted an extra boost in test to "jump start" my strength/gains. I understand the free test boosting characteristics of testoPRO would be benefical, but I am unsure of how I-3-C would affect my already lowered estrogen.

The write-up states, "Indole-3-Carbinol helps the body to modulate estrogen to degrade into the healthier of the alternatives, as opposed to the other."

Would this "modulation" further knock my estrogen into oblivion or would it continue to help modulate it, keeping me at low, but healthy levels? If I am correct in remembering, ATD destroyed estrogen causing many, including myself, to have a low sex drive. That would make this a horrible stack in my opinion. Thanks for your help.
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it basically helps your body metabolize the estradiol into intermediates to be either excreted or carry out other functions (protective/ for bone)

IMO i have not seen bloodwork that SHOWS i3c lowering e2 levels, so its ok to run with it at a moderate dose.

also remember that the ttestopro has divanil which will free up e2 as well, so you should be good to go with the form and testopro.
 
chaz92398 said:
It's been a while since I've worked out. I was going to take some TD formestane as I wanted an extra boost in test to "jump start" my strength/gains. I understand the free test boosting characteristics of testoPRO would be benefical, but I am unsure of how I-3-C would affect my already lowered estrogen.

The write-up states, "Indole-3-Carbinol helps the body to modulate estrogen to degrade into the healthier of the alternatives, as opposed to the other."

Would this "modulation" further knock my estrogen into oblivion or would it continue to help modulate it, keeping me at low, but healthy levels? If I am correct in remembering, ATD destroyed estrogen causing many, including myself, to have a low sex drive. That would make this a horrible stack in my opinion. Thanks for your help.
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I3C modulates or better yet regulates estrogen through its "proper" channels in the body. It does NOT lower estrogen levels nor inhibits the aromatization of estrogen. ATD is MUCH diffferent than Formestane its action, for one ATD does not inhibit DHT as Formestane, secondly ATD blocks the androgen receptor within the brain that usually causes the drop in libido. Formestane is less suppressive on estrogen levels as well. Your best bet is to use topical formestane at 50 mg for 3 weeks then on week 4 taper to 25mg to avoid estrogen rebound. TestoPro and formestane make a GOOD stack, you may even want to throw in some powerfull prebed for its LH and GH boosting properties, also keep in mind that AI's prevent dopamine synthesis, which is why people complain that AI's make them feel tired, lazy, and "loss of sex drive."
 
chaz92398 said:
It's been a while since I've worked out. I was going to take some TD formestane as I wanted an extra boost in test to "jump start" my strength/gains. I understand the free test boosting characteristics of testoPRO would be benefical, but I am unsure of how I-3-C would affect my already lowered estrogen.

The write-up states, "Indole-3-Carbinol helps the body to modulate estrogen to degrade into the healthier of the alternatives, as opposed to the other."

Would this "modulation" further knock my estrogen into oblivion or would it continue to help modulate it, keeping me at low, but healthy levels? If I am correct in remembering, ATD destroyed estrogen causing many, including myself, to have a low sex drive. That would make this a horrible stack in my opinion. Thanks for your help.
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remember ATD acts as an Anti androgen as well,

anti e- raise FSH
anti As- raise LH

both are needed together for spermatogenesis.

what probably happened in your case with the ATD was that you started too much to fast inhibiting the testosterone you had from binding as well as lowering estrogen causing you poor libido.
 
Thanks for the quick answer after the pm.

With already lowered estradiol due to inhibited aromatase enzyme production from the formestane would the I-3-C:

1) Have little to no effect due to low estradiol ng/ml? -OR-

2) Metabolize that remaining "estradiol into the intermediates to be either excreted or carry out other functions"?

The latter being my concern. I'm fine with low e2 levels to a point. I don't want to "ATD" erase estrogen however.

Thanks for your help.
 
chaz92398 said:
Thanks for the quick answer after the pm.

With already lowered estradiol due to inhibited aromatase enzyme production from the formestane would the I-3-C:

1) Have little to no effect due to low estradiol ng/ml? -OR-

2) Metabolize that remaining "estradiol into the intermediates to be either excreted or carry out other functions"?



The latter being my concern. I'm fine with low e2 levels to a point. I don't want to "ATD" erase estrogen however.

Thanks for your help.
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form is different then ATD and you can run atd EOD no problem with no libido loss at 50mg .
 
Thanks to both. THe last two posts came out as I was typing.

I think Andrew nailed what I was looking for. I suspected this would be a GREAT stack, except I was unsure of the I-3-C.

Will be ordering today.
 
E-form and S1+ in the dermabolics carrier will always be king to me...

even with the crappy ass bottle and sprayer!
 
chaz92398 said:
E-form and S1+ in the dermabolics carrier will always be king to me...

even with the crappy ass bottle and sprayer!
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The only company I am aware of that carries the dermabolics carrier is Force Of Green Labs, and they have formestane made already, its called transform, and it oxidizes so one does not have to worry about waiting to long for it to be absorbed.
 
chaz92398 said:
Thanks to both. THe last two posts came out as I was typing.

I think Andrew nailed what I was looking for. I suspected this would be a GREAT stack, except I was unsure of the I-3-C.

Will be ordering today.
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Excellent. I3C is a great ingredient. Too often do people try to lower estrogen, when all along we should have been looking at other means to control it.
 
i have been taking testopro along with my weekly injection of 200mg test cyp, so far nothing but good. i have td formestane standing by in case i need it, but so far all' good. i might mention that i was using stoked, until little bottle ran out so that may have played a role in estrogen management. td formestane or stoked would be my choice if estrogen were a concern-big fan of both res and form.
 
kinda off subject but I got two questions. 1) which is better 50mg of TD formestane or 12.5mg of ATD EOD (I have a scale so I split 1 inhibit-E in half). 2) which increases dopamine more l-dop or 1-c? How many grams a day is a effective dosage?
 
jart45 said:
kinda off subject but I got two questions. 1) which is better 50mg of TD formestane or 12.5mg of ATD EOD (I have a scale so I split 1 inhibit-E in half). 2) which increases dopamine more l-dop or 1-c? How many grams a day is a effective dosage?
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It depends on what you are looking for, if you want just pure test production, go with ATD, but if you want to continue to add size while taking an AI, go with the formestane. As for dopamine production, Powerfull wins ANY day. 1-c bulk, no more than a gram is necessary.
 
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