Post W/O Supps. Sooooooo many options.
- 10-02-2009, 12:58 PM
Post W/O Supps. Sooooooo many options.
Here were the top 4 that had reviews. (That I hav'nt tried) I am looking for YOUR imput!/Suggestions. I NEED better recoveries!!
- Pro (A.I) $42.99, 2.2 lbs ok reviews.
-JP8 (Diesel) $35.99, 1.88 lbs ok reviews.
-X Tend (Scivation) $17.99, 30 serv. ok reviews.
- (Univ. Nutrition) $34.99 (15 serv.OUCH!)
Im 37, and need better, less painful recoveries. Im running a 1 T Tren/Epi. Bridge now.
-2 grams 3x daily
-T Force 1 A.M, 1Pre W/O
Forgot my :
-175 grams Whey Isolate 3x daily + (3200-3500 calories)
-Adding cissus, this week (possibly) depending on the joints this run.
- 1x daily with 2 grams F/O Pre W/O.
-1200 mcg B-12 UTT, in the A.M
I would like a supp. with max BCAA'S, plenty of , and (medium) stims. 150 mg or so.
Thanks for the imput/advice.
- 10-02-2009, 01:59 PM
Just an FYI............there is a larger size Torrent (28 servings) that will save you a bit of money.
The formula is stellar with:
20 grams high quality hydrolyzed whey
8 grams of Leucine (the anabolic trigger)
7 grams of cell volumizers
3 grams of creatine
a great carb blend
The recovery on it is awesome
10-02-2009, 04:32 PM
10-02-2009, 05:05 PM
It looks very good compared to the "BCAA STACK" since it has a lot of the bcaa Luecine with a very good protein and good carbs in a nice ratio.
10-02-2009, 05:12 PM
10-02-2009, 05:14 PM
Check out IGF-2... I've only been on it for a couple days, but I did notice that I didn't have any muscle soreness the day after a pretty good workout that usually leaves me a little sore. It supposedly helps with recovery, but I and others can attest to it's ability to reduce DOMS.
10-02-2009, 05:20 PM
10-02-2009, 05:28 PM
10-02-2009, 05:34 PM
I do carb free PWO, if you get good preworkout nutrition, theres no evidence that you need particularly high amounts of carbs post. All the people who suggest it are coming from a study that showed that a first thing in the morning fasted workout had better protein uptake (not necessarily more muscle gain either mind you) from a carb/protein mix than protein solo. No studies done non-fasted showed significant difference that i've seen.
Anyone who disagrees, i'd be happy to be proved wrong with an actual scientific study
10-02-2009, 05:54 PM
10-02-2009, 06:17 PM
10-02-2009, 07:20 PM
I prefer Cellucor's R3. I've been using it for about 2 years and I can tell a big difference when I don't have it. I really thrash my muscles everytime I workout, with R3 I'm able to hit the gym 5-6 days a week. If I am sore, it's because I ran out of R3. Just my 2 cents...
10-02-2009, 10:17 PM
in my opinion, Universal Torrents probably the best p/wo becasue of the protien and and all the other things it ahs in it. u should check it out dawg
10-03-2009, 11:46 AM
I'll look into some of these ideas. I still think old school.....BCAA'S, W/ heavy glutamine, as well as some recovery carbs ( not alot) are needed to restore pre W/O levels in the body.
10-03-2009, 12:38 PM
10-03-2009, 07:13 PM
10-04-2009, 03:02 AM
Have you looked into Nitro-Pro by Muscleology? It is what I have been using and I have been getting great results and very quick recovery time which allows me to go to the gym 6-7 days a week even while I am working full-time and going home to take care of my wife and daughter (4 months).
10-04-2009, 03:30 AM
10-04-2009, 08:28 PM
Basically saying that post-exercise protein synthesis is improved with PWO protein and carbs supps, although long-term recovery (ie, overnight & next day) is unaffected.
And this one, which is claiming that Pre-WO carbs & protein in the form of EAAs does nothing to improve post-workout recovery.
It's a start, anyway....
10-04-2009, 09:28 PM
the first is meaningless, because
So yes, someone taking in protein + carbs has higher protein synthesis than someone taking in water only I didn't need a study to figure that out If they had a Pro only group and carb only group it could have been meaningful.Subjects participated in a 2-h exercise session during which beverages containing both carbohydrate (0.15 g·kg–1·h–1) and a protein hydrolysate (0.15 g·kg–1·h–1) (C+P, n = 10) or water only (W, n = 10) were ingested.
in the second the kicker is "We conclude that EAA + CHO ingestion before resistance exercise does not enhance postexercise FSR compared with exercise without nutrients." Fractional Synthetic Rate is what FSR stands for. So thats one marker of protein synthesis, but not the only one. So not really conclusive. You have to also consider fatigue level, cortisol level, and ability to do the same level of work fasted vs EAA+CHO, all of which are important in long term muscle growth. you'd really have to follow athletes through 8-10 weeks of all their workouts being that way, and do DEXA scans before + after to see overall muscle mass changes.
10-05-2009, 12:09 PM
Torrent is a complete post workout formula, instead of buying 6-7 different powders and mixing them up and having it taste horrible, you can get it all in one great tasting formula.
10-05-2009, 08:14 PM
10-06-2009, 08:51 AM
10-06-2009, 10:47 AM
10-06-2009, 10:03 PM
Might as well throw my PWO coctail in the mix. You say you want to keep it simple and old school. 2 Scoops MHP's Dark Matter (3 types insulinogenic carbs, hydro whey, creatine), 2 scoops Xtend (BCAA's, Glutamine), and 2 grams Beta-Alanine. 1 hour later have a clean protein and carb meal.
10-07-2009, 09:01 PM
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