18 5-8. 175ish from 170 i think i gained a bit more fat with those 5lbs. well i was looking intoagain but i might try DTP or DTHC. the only reason i havent done it yet is because: 18? you wont gain anything off test booster. well i have resreached more and still get mixed answers... any thoughts or should i just get two bottles of and JP8?