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  1.  08-25-2009  08:03 AM
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    Stomach Blubber (not VAT)


    a friend of mine was asking about supps. to decrease ab fat. He's got love handles and fat hanging over his belt buckle. My understanding of VAT is that its behind the abdominal muscles and the stomach has a firm feel. This is not what this guy has...very soft and squishy type fat. ..hes also relatively thin at 40 years old.
    any ideas..?



  2.  08-25-2009  08:29 AM
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    Originally Posted by JohnnieFreeze View Post
    a friend of mine was asking about supps. to decrease ab fat. He's got love handles and fat hanging over his belt buckle. My understanding of VAT is that its behind the abdominal muscles and the stomach has a firm feel. This is not what this guy has...very soft and squishy type fat. ..hes also relatively thin at 40 years old.
    any ideas..?
    Not a whole lot you can do except a spot on diet and exercise. At his age a cortisol blocker may be something to look into as cortisol levels tend to increase with age. Lean FX or Lean Xtreme are top notch.

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    Originally Posted by jim623 View Post
    Not a whole lot you can do except a spot on diet and exercise. At his age a cortisol blocker may be something to look into as cortisol levels tend to increase with age. Lean FX or Lean Xtreme are top notch.
    ah cool...I was wondering if a cort blocker might help..
    oh, how about a good nutrient partitioner..could NA-RALA or Glucobol help?
    thx..

  4.  08-25-2009  08:43 AM
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    Originally Posted by JohnnieFreeze View Post
    ah cool...I was wondering if a cort blocker might help..
    oh, how about a good nutrient partitioner..could NA-RALA or Glucobol help?
    thx..
    I didn't think about Glycobol, that could be a big help. I've heard a lot of good things about it.
    Give Andrew732 a shout, that's his product.

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    Originally Posted by jim623 View Post
    I didn't think about Glycobol, that could be a big help. I've heard a lot of good things about it.
    I'll pass on the info, thx again.

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    Chances are high that he has abdominal obesity (visceral-adipose-tissue and subcutaneous-adipose-tissue), assuming no other medical condition has been isolated. In the presence of abdominal obesity, fat loss is difficult without selective cortisol inhibition (assuming proper diet and exercise). Remember, the key is to selectively inhibit cortisol (via 11ß-HSD type 1 inhibition), not annihilate it! Without selective cortisol inhibition, abdominal fat loss will be a challenge. Besides, insulin sensitivity might be impaired; the testosterone:cortisol ratio might be compromised; and the markers of cardiovascular and endothelial functions may be depressed.
    If I directly recommend VAT! Attack, it will certainly be perceived as biased. So, I would like to invite you to take a look at this: Vat Attack! By USPowders, Get Super Lean for Super Cheap! Write up and Q&A.
    Afterwards, the choice is yours!
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    Originally Posted by JohnnieFreeze View Post
    I'll pass on the info, thx again.
    Or you can post your question here: Questions anyone

  9.  08-25-2009  12:41 PM
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    Originally Posted by liquid View Post
    Or you can post your question here: Questions anyone
    I think he meant pass on as in relay, not ignor.

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    Glycobol plus VatAttack would be ideal, its sounds like he has a poor test to cort ratio, also due to aging has wrinkly skin.
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    Originally Posted by jim623 View Post
    I think he meant pass on as in relay, not ignor.
    exactly

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    Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    Glycobol plus VatAttack would be ideal, its sounds like he has a poor test to cort ratio, also due to aging has wrinkly skin.
    sounds good....but no wrinkly skin..looks sort of young for his age..go figure.

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    Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Chances are high that he has abdominal obesity (visceral-adipose-tissue and subcutaneous-adipose-tissue), assuming no other medical condition has been isolated. In the presence of abdominal obesity, fat loss is difficult without selective cortisol inhibition (assuming proper diet and exercise). Remember, the key is to selectively inhibit cortisol (via 11ß-HSD type 1 inhibition), not annihilate it! Without selective cortisol inhibition, abdominal fat loss will be a challenge. Besides, insulin sensitivity might be impaired; the testosterone:cortisol ratio might be compromised; and the markers of cardiovascular and endothelial functions may be depressed.
    If I directly recommend VAT! Attack, it will certainly be perceived as biased. So, I would like to invite you to take a look at this: Vat Attack! By USPowders, Get Super Lean for Super Cheap! Write up and Q&A.
    Afterwards, the choice is yours!
    great post, thanks!!

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    Originally Posted by JohnnieFreeze View Post
    a friend of mine was asking about supps. to decrease ab fat. He's got love handles and fat hanging over his belt buckle. My understanding of VAT is that its behind the abdominal muscles and the stomach has a firm feel. This is not what this guy has...very soft and squishy type fat. ..hes also relatively thin at 40 years old.
    any ideas..?
    What you're not talking about is his diet & excercise. You can mask the issue with supplements but if his diet is off and he doesn't do a minimum of 30 minutes of cardio (500 calorie sessions) 5 days a week then he will never rid himself of the problem.

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    might have to try this

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