Billd82
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Currently taking jack3d preworkout and am looking to either add Prime or DTP....any suggestions?? 26yrs old 5'7" 180lbs
Prime did nothing for me, 2 full bottles and nothing, maybe i was a non responder but i didnt like it.
DTP, aggression, energy, strength, libido, TESTOSTERONE.
Id go with DTP any day
DTP is mildly hormonal. It contains a small amount of DHEA. You certainly have to cycle it, but no PCT is required.I've been wondering about DTP as well..
I know Prime is not hormonal is DTP? Does it require a PCT when you stop?
Im not so sure about this one... DTHC is obviously a great test booster, dont get me wrong. However, PRIME is ranked in the top 50 product sold on NP currently...Its a pity NP doesn't do polls but I bet as a straight poll DHTC would have more fans than Prime.
I bet you're probably right.Its a pity NP doesn't do polls but I bet as a straight poll DHTC would have more fans than Prime. If you respond to Prime great, if not DHTC, AIs or stinging nettle root extract (ActivaTE).
I will be doing that in my next log... I have high hopes for DTHC cuz if it's anywhere near as good as Prime is for me it will be an amazing supp.Im not so sure about this one... DTHC is obviously a great test booster, dont get me wrong. However, PRIME is ranked in the top 50 product sold on NP currently...
Two different public's. Being realistic it is tough to compare the two...
Sounds like I planned it right will do 6 weeks of DTHC then brake then my prime progressive mega-dose experiment for 12 weeks...I have always been a fan of DTHC and have recommended it to people looking for a good natty test booster....however, Prime has no comparison for me. Where I would respond less with time on the DTHC (sense of well being, hardons, libido, drive,etc), Prime keeps getting better and better with time. I really feel that the sweet spot on Prime is weeks 8+++. No other natty anabolic can compare to the consistent drive, alpha male feeling, pump, etc I get from long cycles on Prime. Crazy stuff. Prime = PR buster.
This really doesn't mean anything, USPLabs is more of a nationally recognized company. I am sure Muscletech, Twinlab, Eas sell more than USPlabs, does that make them better.Im not so sure about this one... DTHC is obviously a great test booster, dont get me wrong. However, PRIME is ranked in the top 50 product sold on NP currently...
You could be right, but there is a strong following on the board for DTHC, it might be because they all like Chuck. At a guess I'd say DTHC is cheaper than Prime. Normally its 250 caps at 4 caps per day costing ~$45, so would last 2 months. Prime tends to last a month - 20 to 30 days.Im not so sure about this one... DTHC is obviously a great test booster, dont get me wrong. However, PRIME is ranked in the top 50 product sold on NP currently...
Two different public's. Being realistic it is tough to compare the two...
The only formula that ever changed was removing the Cissus from Anabolic pump about 2 years ago...Please, your biased nature is exposed.The thing to watch with USPlabs is that they will change/stack their product and generally when they do this the new ingredient can be really potent. A good example is the new more potent Prime they recently brought out. Basically USP is a moving target, so just because they don't get things right one day they turn around and change unexpectedly. DHTC can only really aim for product synergy and there ain't much more you can pack in there.
NP sales are driven by AnabolicMinds and GD has about a 4-5 year headstart in the market place.This really doesn't mean anything, USPLabs is more of a nationally recognized company. I am sure Muscletech, Twinlab, Eas sell more than USPlabs, does that make them better.
Not a knock on USP, just not sound reasoning imo. I have no clue about USP products.
AM does have polls; there's the option when you start a new thread. There are plenty of threads about "Which is the best _____" or "X vs. Y" threads. As we can all agree, people respond differently to the same supplement, for better or worse. Having tried both, I still can't tell YOU how YOU will respond to the products. They both have their merits. You need to figure out what your budget is like, how you plan on running these products/ total cost. Then look at a few logs, ask around, and make the leap.You could be right, but there is a strong following on the board for DTHC, it might be because they all like Chuck. At a guess I'd say DTHC is cheaper than Prime. Normally its 250 caps at 4 caps per day costing ~$45, so would last 2 months. Prime tends to last a month - 20 to 30 days.
Really thats why we need polls. NP will probably avoid this like the plague because it would mean upsetting an established board sponsor.
The thing to watch with USPlabs is that they will change/stack their product and generally when they do this the new ingredient can be really potent. A good example is the new more potent Prime they recently brought out. Basically USP is a moving target, so just because they don't get things right one day they turn around and change unexpectedly. DHTC can only really aim for product synergy and there ain't much more you can pack in there.
Jack3d ingredients did not change. We just added more beta Alanine and AAKG.AM does have polls; there's the option when you start a new thread. There are plenty of threads about "Which is the best _____" or "X vs. Y" threads. As we can all agree, people respond differently to the same supplement, for better or worse. Having tried both, I still can't tell YOU how YOU will respond to the products. They both have their merits. You need to figure out what your budget is like, how you plan on running these products/ total cost. Then look at a few logs, ask around, and make the leap.
USP Labs typically formulates a product and sticks with it although Jack3d and even Recreate did change post-release; Chuck likes to tweak his DTH every batch in search of improving the product. I don't quite get the point you were trying to make here matthias though.
I just responded to the "there should be a poll at NP" comment. Well, there ahhh is...This really doesn't mean anything, USPLabs is more of a nationally recognized company. I am sure Muscletech, Twinlab, Eas sell more than USPlabs, does that make them better.
Not a knock on USP, just not sound reasoning imo. I have no clue about USP products.
My point exactly.People love DTH and probably good reasons behind it. I urge people to try both and if they like both then stack both....
Super Valid point but USPlabs did not have any corporate money. I started the company on AnabolicMinds with 12 bottles of cAMPHIBOLIC.I just responded to the "there should be a poll at NP" comment. Well, there ahhh is...
I understand where your logic falls, totally valid.
By change, i meant in quantity, not in type. The caffeine content in recreate decreased, and you already stated the changes to the ingredients in Jack3d.Jack3d ingredients did not change. We just added more beta Alanine and AAKG.
Recreates ingredients have never changed from release.
All our ingredient panels will appear different and that is PRIMARILY because we had a top level FDA firm review our labels and we made name corrections to comply with FDA.
Thank you!I'm with stack em both would be good combo. Both are great companies have had good results from both. I have no complaints. USP and GD make great products as far as i'm concerned. Haven't tried Prime yet but if its like rest of their stuff should be good.
gotcha!By change, i meant in quantity, not in type. The caffeine content in recreate decreased, and you already stated the changes to the ingredients in Jack3d.
Which means stacking the 2 could be very beneficial. Right now I need something to run between Prime cycles so I am trying DTHC but I may actually want to stack DTP with Prime at a later date.Whether one ends up with DTP or PRIME primarily depends on one's intended goals. Although direct product comparisons frequently provide a useful guide for many, some direct comparisons may be fundamentally flawed. Personally, I do not consider a one-on-one comparison between DTP and PRIME truly meaningful. Why? They are completely different products! Look at each briefly:
Containing testosterone precursors and a variety of related synergistic agents, DTP is primarily designed to boost testosterone levels, and consequently provide a series of related benefits such as estrogen reduction, improved sexual performance, greater aggression, improved pumps, and so on. On the other hand, PRIME is designed to induce significant improvements in body re-composition, yielding dense lean mass and muscle fullness, inducing dramatic increases in strength and endurance, delivering enhanced recovery, and so on, without provoking any direct changes in androgenic profiles.
So, how should we directly and fairly compare the two products? Sounds tough to me. Any either-or-decision cannot be uncoupled from one's primary goal. Considering that they deliver hardly overlapping benefits, budget allowing, it might make sense to stack them; otherwise, they may be used sequentially.
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