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    I have been a little weary of mystery ingredients since taking Size On a while back. I am currently on white blood/ green mag for pwo. I am wondering about some of the ingredients in NO Shotgun V3. Specifically:

    Gamma Buty robetaine
    Magnesium Tanshinoate B
    BPOV
    GPA
    Beta Phenylethylamine HCL
    R- beta Methylphenylethylamine
    Hordenine HCL

    Please post if you know. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by b18cyaaa View Post
    I have been a little weary of mystery ingredients since taking Size On a while back. I am currently on white blood/ green mag for pwo. I am wondering about some of the ingredients in NO Shotgun V3. Specifically:

    Gamma Butyrobetaine
    Magnesium Tanshinoate B
    BPOV
    GPA
    Beta Phenylethylamine HCL
    R- beta Methylphenylethylamine
    Hordenine HCL

    Please post if you know. Thanks
    Gamma Butyrobetaine- L-Carnitine pre-cur- has an effect on mitochondrial fatty acid metabolism; can supposedly be transported in a more efficient manner than carnitine

    Magnesium Tanshinoate B- vasodialator with NO-enhancing properties

    BPOV- form of vanadium- insulin mimicker

    GPA- Guanidinopropionic Acid, prevents the transport of creatine into skeletal muscle

    Beta Phenylethylamine HCL- PEA, actually in the same familiy of compounds (empathogens) as MDA and MDMA, mood-enhancing qualities, but only when taken with a MAO-B inhibitor like Hordenine

    R- beta Methylphenylethylamine- methylated isomer of PEA, effects probably similar

    Hordenine HCL- MAO-B inhibitor, increases the effectiveness of PEA
    Dirk Tanis, BA, MSci
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms80 View Post
    Gamma Butyrobetaine- L-Carnitine pre-cur- has an effect on mitochondrial fatty acid metabolism; can supposedly be transported in a more efficient manner than carnitine

    Magnesium Tanshinoate B- vasodialator with NO-enhancing properties

    BPOV- form of vanadium- insulin mimicker

    GPA- Guanidinopropionic Acid, prevents the transport of creatine into skeletal muscle

    Beta Phenylethylamine HCL- PEA, actually in the same familiy of compounds (empathogens) as MDA and MDMA, mood-enhancing qualities, but only when taken with a MAO-B inhibitor like Hordenine

    R- beta Methylphenylethylamine- methylated isomer of PEA, effects probably similar

    Hordenine HCL- MAO-B inhibitor, increases the effectiveness of PEA
    I hadn't paid enough attention to know that PEA was in this. No wonder I feel so good when I take it.

    Anyone have more info on GPA?
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    Impressive.. thanks. Are all these supps safe? I don't want a GCC rendition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b18cyaaa View Post
    Impressive.. thanks. Are all these supps safe? I don't want a GCC rendition.
    No idea- I would def. stay away from GPA b/c of the issues with creatine uptake, but as far as some of the others go, it can be a crapshoot.....

    I try to take the KISS approach to formulating our products- I look for potential benefits, scientific research on the given compound, interactions, dosage amounts, extract potency, potential synergism with other ingredients, co-factors, etc.

    The more ingredients that you have in a SKU, the more careful you have to be- especially when it comes to stims, MAO Inhibitors, insulin mimetics, vasodialators, cholinergics, AChE inhibitors, etc.....

    There are a lot of things out there, that, when taken in the wrong combination, can really **** you up.....this is why we always, always, always do very diligent alpha testing on all our SKUs- the more info you get on any given ingredient or combination, the better off you are

    I log everything into a SS, both good and bad, when we test- that way I have a quick reference if any issues come up, and I can fix any issues before we mass-produce the SKU- it is similar to scaling up in chemistry- you tweak things around in the early stages and try to come up with the best method before you go into producing 1000's of bottles....
    Dirk Tanis, BA, MSci
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