Creatine Pre or Post or Both?

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I am wondering this because theyre are so many people that take it before instead of post. But i take it post becuz thats what bodybuilding.com said to do. What is the actual best time to take it on on days, and off days?
 
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If you got the money, creapure pre and post workout
 

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Dark Matter post, or as was stated, Creapure.
 
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doesn't matter. once it's reached peak levels in your system you just need 2-5 grams per day to maintain. when you take it is of no consequence.
 
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anyway works with creatine .for me load cycling creatine best
 
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Load cycling ?What your protocol look like for that. Im one of those people that has'nt seen to much from creatine but im giving it a go again with a few different types im prob taken in around 5-8g a day
 
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Load cycling ?What your protocol look like for that. Im one of those people that has'nt seen to much from creatine but im giving it a go again with a few different types im prob taken in around 5-8g a day
3-4 days per week around 25 grams(sometimes my stomach can not handle 25 grams so I take in 20 ) If you are getting too bloated back off a bit because you will get bloated(face)

take a 3-4 day break then repeat yes even load on off days

how this works the creatine receptors are hyper saturated than a break reduces them then when a person loads they become hypersaturated again.
 
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3-4 days per week around 25 grams(sometimes my stomach can not handle 25 grams so I take in 20 ) If you are getting too bloated back off a bit because you will get bloated(face)

take a 3-4 day break then repeat yes even load on off days

how this works the creatine receptors are hyper saturated than a break reduces them then when a person loads they become hypersaturated again.
Ok i have alot of supps with creatine in it which i take first my Storm/shock therapy then lava protein...would CL greenMag work to load cause i have a hole jug not even opened. If i could use that how much and when on top of what i already take on workout days
 
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doesn't matter. once it's reached peak levels in your system you just need 2-5 grams per day to maintain. when you take it is of no consequence.
Holy hell. This is the only post in this thread that is accurate.

This rest of this thread is so full of misinformation it makes your head spin. People have been reading way too many muscle rags, believing that garbage and parroting it. Too much broscience.
 
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Holy hell. This is the only post in this thread that is accurate.

This rest of this thread is so full of misinformation it makes your head spin. People have been reading way too many muscle rags, believing that garbage and parroting it. Too much broscience.
Why should we beleive you?

Have you tried all the methods above? I doubt it. Have you heard the saying "theres more than one way to skin a cat"?

How about there are about 5 ways to implement teaching?

How about there are people that respond different to every diet?

How about there are many different ways to train? My legs grow very easily but arms have trouble growing. My room mate is the opposite.

See what im getting at here? There is no one way to go about anything.

Get off your high horse pal, he is looking for suggestions and thats what people are posting.
 
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I am wondering this because theyre are so many people that take it before instead of post. But i take it post becuz thats what bodybuilding.com said to do. What is the actual best time to take it on on days, and off days?
Whether you use creatine pre or post-training is personal preference. Some products recommend pre and others post for that particular product. It also depends on the product that you use; for example, NeoVar Recomped acts as a nutrient repartitioner as well as being a creatine product and so it is beneficial to use it pre-high cabohydrate meals (and they don't have to be near training) and I often dose it pre-bed as well; whereas straight creatine products, like creatine monohydrate, are only creatine and can be dose pre and post-resistance/anaerobic training.

Personally I notice the difference dosing creatine either just pre or post, and I get the best results when I have creatine pre AND post-resistance/anaerobic training. I also use creatine on non-resistance training days, but this again, is personal preference; and I usually use it pre-cardio (since my cardio is usually high intensity). The creatine products that I use however, are MORE than just creatine products (i.e. NeoVar Recomped, Cre-02. Anadraulic State, etc.) and there fore are giving me far more benefits than taking just creatine alone.


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I have been on creatine seven years since I started pretty much. I have done a small dose pre-and post I have also done post only...they work. from my own expirience that loading has put on the most strength,fuller bigger (and yes to some extent watery)muscles and weight.
 
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Upregulation and Downregulation of creatine receptors is a fact LAGear.. Once saturated (aka your "peak" levels) the receptors downregulate to absorb less b/c theres enough in your body at your receptor sites.. Cycling as previously stated keeps the receptors pingponging up and down so you see a continuous effect from the creatine. Staying on all day everyday will eventually start to show diminishing effects, some see the lower effects others dont notice.. but it does happen- at a cellular level anyway.

Sorry bout the rant, but I find preworkout is always best for creatine since it's a precursor to ATP and helps increase ATP levels.. in otherwords burst energy, which I find most helpful preworkout. Replenishing what was lost postworkout usually just gives me the bloat.
 

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post and 5-10 grams a day everyday. loading???????? yeah ok this isnt 1996. loading is a great way to waste your money
 
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doesn't matter. once it's reached peak levels in your system you just need 2-5 grams per day to maintain. when you take it is of no consequence.
loading???????? yeah ok this isnt 1996. loading is a great way to waste your money
Holy hell. This is the only post in this thread that is accurate. The rest of this thread is so full of misinformation it makes your head spin. People have been reading way too many muscle rags, believing that garbage and parroting it. Too much broscience.
Agreed. Loading is futile. If you want to argue that the study below doesn't pertain to bodybuilders, please keep in mind the average male utilizes about 2 grams of creatine daily. Even if an elite lifter uses twice that much, 5 grams daily is more than enough to super-saturate.

Muscle creatine loading in men. [J Appl Physiol. 1996] - PubMed Result

"Muscle total creatine concentration increased by approximately 20% after 6 days of creatine supplementation at a rate of 20 g/day. A similar, but more gradual, 20% increase in muscle total creatine concentration was observed over a period of 28 days when supplementation was undertaken at a rate of 3 g/day. In conclusion, a rapid way to "creatine load" human skeletal muscle is to ingest 20 g of creatine for 6 days. This elevated tissue concentration can then be maintained by ingestion of 2 g/day thereafter. The ingestion of 3 g creatine/day is in the long term likely to be as effective at raising tissue levels as this higher dose."
 

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sometimes you get what you pay for, I have always spent a little more to get a better quality for creatine but thats just me
 
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sometimes you get what you pay for, I have always spent a little more to get a better quality for creatine but thats just me
Not sure what that means... the Creapure brand is as quality as it gets, and it's dirt cheap.
 
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i used post for a long time different kinds. I used kre-alk for awhile 2g before and after then found Storm. I like storm the best but pre not post. I ran i tub post then one pre and notced more from pre. I do not take it everyday, only about 4 a week and only WO days why my body needs it.
 
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Generally, there are three optimal times to take creatine: 1) First thing in the morning in a fasted state when the muscle cells are like sponge, dense with enzymes favourable to nutrient absorption; 2) Pre-workout, so that the workout itself provokes the uptake of nutrients. Put differently, the idea of taking creatine supplements pre-workout is that training provokes better vasodilation, flooding muscle cells with nutrient-rich blood, leading to superior post-training repair and growth processes. Furthermore, muscle contraction (during exercise) requires adenosine triphosphate (ATP), the body’s energy currency. Unfortunately, as is well-known, ATP is highly unstable, delivering energy for about 10 seconds. Fortunately, the consumption of creatine helps address this problem. In skeletal muscle cells, creatine is converted to phosphocreatine or creatine phosphate by the enzyme creatine kinase (CK) and stored there. When required, the phosphate molecule is then donated to adenosine triphosphate (ADP) to form ATP. The metabolization of ATP creates energy, making muscle contraction possible. So, creatine can act as an ATP generator during exercise. By providing the body with more ATP, creatine helps enhance energy and strength, leading to an increase in (type 2) muscle fibers recruited and stimulated. And by recruiting ATP, creatine ensures the body by-passes glycolysis, down-regulating the release of lactic acid, leading to stronger and longer muscular exertion. These are all favourable conditions for intense exercise; 3) Within 90 minutes post-workout, to take advantage of the so-called Anabolic Window of Opportunity when glycogen stores are depleted and the body is in an optimal state for anabolism. As is well-known, intense exercise triggers insulin release, up-regulates androgen-receptor sites, and depletes ATP and glycogen stores. Put differently, the body enters a catabolic state and the receptor sites become supersensitive to nutrient uptake to induce anabolism. However, this anabolic activity has to be fuelled by ATP, and since creatine is a substrate for ATP production via phosphocreatine synthesis, ATP upregulation via creatine supplementation, in the presence of macronutrients such as proteins and carbohydrates, becomes very attractive.

As for creatine loading, this is purely a matter of individual preference. Recall our bodies synthesize creatine daily from the amino acids glycine, arginine, and methionine. Besides, we also obtain creatine from diet (meat/animal sources). An average, healthy, 70kg athlete has creatine reserves of about 120gr. He uses up about 2.5gr - 3gr or so daily in metabolic processes, depending on his level of activity. Some of this creatine need is replenished via endogenous creatine synthesis and the rest directly from diet. Personally, therefore, I neither see the need to load nor do I take mega-doses (>5gr daily) of creatine.
 

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