powerfull vs igf2
- 06-24-2009, 09:24 PM
- 06-24-2009, 09:50 PM
The original PowerFULL formulation used a 75% L-Dopa extract, but ended up being 50% L-Dopa once the product was complete. However, the reformulated PowerFULL does not contain L-Dopa from Mucuna Pruriens, but PureDopa (1-carboxy-2-amino-3-pyrobenzol(3,4 diol) Extract engineered from Mucuna Pruriens), which is closely related to L-Dopa.
None of them "deliver" HGH; they CREATE the right environment for the RELEASE of HGH. As to which causes the higher release, to know on an individual basis that said individual would have to have used both in controlled testing situations and had bloods done to determine this.
- 06-25-2009, 01:43 AM
for the people that have taken the old version of powerfull and the new which one have you felt is better? and by puredopa do you mean dopamean it self or just another precurser to dopamean?
06-25-2009, 02:29 AM
06-25-2009, 02:58 AM
thanks a lot, this is really helpful information
06-25-2009, 03:34 AM
You can read my thoughts on IGF-2 here: Click HERE
I'd say ask both companies' reps for a sample if it's possible and try them out for yourself.
06-25-2009, 05:38 AM
to increase the effectiveness of your l-dopa you should consider stacking it with vitamin B6 (or for simplicity just a B complex) and also some EGCG.
I have been looking for information on this but I can't seem to find it. Does someone have a link to a study that states how much growth hormone is increased by supplementing with l-dopa?
06-25-2009, 05:43 AM
by the way there is a brand out there called cognitive nutrition that carries a product with 100% L-dopa.
06-25-2009, 05:59 AM
06-25-2009, 06:09 AM
Hey guys what do you think of stacking this:
DL-Phenylalanine 500 mg
L-DOPA 250 mg
Picamilon 150 mg
5-HTP 100 mg
and look this
GABA (gamma-amino butyric acid) is an inhibitory neurotransmitter, helping neurons stay selective about the signals to which they respond and helping produce a state of relaxation. Taken at bedtime, supplemental GABA may assist some people in the initiation of sleep and produce a deeper and more beneficial sleep. A more effective form of GABA is Picamilon or using it's precursor L-Theanine
06-25-2009, 06:10 AM
i have not tested but i did order and it should be here really soon.
Also there is another product by a company called prosource. they carry a product that has some good reviews that has 300mgs of l-dopa in a dose.
I have tried a different product from prosource and it was definetely the real deal.
06-25-2009, 06:12 AM
06-25-2009, 09:55 AM
06-25-2009, 11:35 AM
06-25-2009, 12:12 PM
L-Dopa DOES cross the blood-brain barrier; it transports dopamine across the blood-brain barrier (Marieb, 2004).
06-25-2009, 01:04 PM
06-25-2009, 05:09 PM
The recommended dosing for IGF-2 is done that way so that the maximum benefits and effects can be gained from using the product.
I can tell you personally that my recovery on IGF-2 is amazing. Within the first few days of using it (the first time) my DOMS was eliminated; I rarely STOP using it now, since when I do the DOMS returns. Stacking IHG-2 with Lipotrophin-PM also ensures that I have deep, quality sleep, since I usually sleep for only 4-5 hours a night.
06-25-2009, 07:16 PM
I will be switching my routine soon to one thats a little more intense so a gh product could really help. I dont sleep that well anymore either. I just hate being dissapointed when trying new products. One thing I always do when using a new supp is I run it solo so I know exactly how it works. Thanks again.
06-25-2009, 08:02 PM
In saying that, I'm pretty confident that you'll be pleased with the effects you see from a product like IGF-2. This is by far my favourite supplement (and I don't give praise for something unless it really DOES something for me)!
06-25-2009, 08:04 PM
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06-25-2009, 08:57 PM
Spot on here guys... Many people cycle through IGF-2 and PowerFULL. They are different products, therefore one cannot propose a "X vs X". Try them and let us know which you like better.
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06-25-2009, 09:51 PM
06-25-2009, 10:15 PM
06-25-2009, 11:06 PM
If you know your body well enough and you know how it responds to different products, then you CAN use the kitchen sink. Generally though, you would know how each of them affects you individually or in stacks before using them ALL together.
06-26-2009, 03:03 AM
personally I would not take a product that has such a simple proprietary blend. I mean why in the heck would they not tell you how much l-dopa is in product? I would take a product that specifically says how much l-dopa it has. even a label that says 1000 mgs standardized to 15% l-dopa is good.
you should take l-dopa or levadopa (same thing)
you should take vitamin b6
and you should take EGCG or a green tea extract.
if you take these three things you should have good results.
06-26-2009, 04:52 AM
Never used IGF product, but Powerfull is really good.
06-26-2009, 06:21 AM
so how many posts by reps do we have in this thread now?
06-26-2009, 08:38 AM
I don't think you could go wrong with either one. I tried them both and like them both. For me they are just a piece fo the puzzle though.
Mind and Muscle Board Representative I am not a physician and any advice is solely based on personal experience with various products
06-26-2009, 08:42 AM
06-26-2009, 09:07 AM
06-26-2009, 09:12 AM
06-26-2009, 06:46 PM
06-26-2009, 09:56 PM
07-06-2009, 08:26 PM
I currently use USPowders 1-carboxy and have a couple of questions:
* Why are B6 and EGCG needed?
* Can I take P5P instead of B6?
07-07-2009, 02:26 AM
07-07-2009, 04:46 AM
igf 2 can not give good sleep since it has Rhodiola Rosea in it.Rhodiola Rosea had been given to Russian prisoners to work without sleep for more than 24 our.
I used Powerfull and it give me very good sleep and increase of libido(probably because of prolactin inhibition)
07-07-2009, 11:05 AM
07-29-2009, 03:27 PM
Currently running RPM/IGF-2 together. Ran Powerfull last year, and truly the only thing I noticed was deep groggy sleep.
So far after 4 days of IGF-2 I think my muscles feel harder today. Not sure of anything else yet. Definitely no difference in sleep and not increase in Libido and yes, I am one of those older guys in great shape....still waiting...will keep you posted later.
07-30-2009, 06:56 AM
I've been on IGF-2 for three days, this is day four and I have experienced a better sleep than without. I dropped my nightly Valerian Root a few days before starting the IGF-2 so I could experience the effects of it alone. I can't compare it to Powerfull as it is not something I've tried but I'm usually not very good at sleeping.
Had some odd dreams last night, forgot what they were about some time this morning after waking.
07-30-2009, 07:01 AM
X2 - using the bulk powder 1-carboxy, + 50mg zinc, 4G L-arginine, 1G L-carnitine, getting some very restful nights.
IGF-2 does look interesting...will prob give it a go so its nice to read the feedback from users.
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