Age Old Question- Prison Bodies
- 06-13-2009, 08:12 PM
- 06-13-2009, 08:15 PM
Well all prisons are different, but I know up here in the Canadian ones many inmantes work and get paid a stiped. They can put that towards buying items at the "Canteen", which includes food + many other amenities. Also study and study again have shown the athletes really don't require that much extra protein.
- 06-13-2009, 09:09 PM
When your locked up what elese to do but lift??
As far as the food goes it sucks.
In any given day you get around 2800 cal's, but like Steveoph said there is a "Canteen"
Where you have acess to buy snacks and stuff VIA your prison account.
You can make money in jail but it is only like 29 cents per HR.
However, family and friends can add cash to your account.
That and we all know the best job in jail is to be on the mess hall staff
06-13-2009, 09:59 PM
Which supports some peoples points that you don't need a solid diet to get ripped that you can also train heavily like I'm sure inmates do and pack on muscle I'm sure they don't care about doms because honestly do u think prisoners are using splits and caring about rest?
06-13-2009, 10:04 PM
The food is prison/jail isn't all that bad. It's a lot more nutritional than hospital food anyway. The canteen/commissary/store has pretty good stuff in there, depending on where you're at of course. There's beef jerky, pork rinds (pretty good protein there), protein bars maybe, etc.
06-13-2009, 10:05 PM
06-13-2009, 10:16 PM
But doesn't this fly directly in the face of all the bogus, unsubstantiated and over-hyped protein advertisements crammed down our (bodybuilders) throats all the time?!
Furthermore, while I am certain you are correct about stipends, I have a hunch these guys in prison are using them towards ANYTHING other than protein supps! Wouldn't you if you were locked in a box with no life???!!
Again, some of these guys are straight-up jacked.
To further my point, IF they are working out like nuts, and only getting in 100 grams/day of protein - doesn't that only dispell the over-hyped protein myths EVEN MORE - because IF it was "so necessary" to get in all this protein daily (~250 grams a day), these guys would be in catabolic hell with all these extra work-outs and certainly not thick and swole....but...they are!!
06-13-2009, 10:17 PM
Ya but its not like they lead active lifestyles...burning tons of calories doing daily tasks. Other than lifting, aren't they seditary in thier cells?
06-13-2009, 10:43 PM
look....When the option is grow massive/built or take another mans sausage in the butt, you will find a drive that will out do any anabolic substance on the market.
06-13-2009, 11:34 PM
06-13-2009, 11:57 PM
06-14-2009, 05:00 AM
06-14-2009, 06:38 AM
Hmmmmm, so in your example, they would need LESS protein.
Now, add the possibilities in that:
1) they work out harder / with more intensity
2) they work out more often (even multiple times per day) + perhaps daily with zero breaks
3) have zero micronutrient/supplementation help (no creatine, no amino's, nada!)
.......and you quickly offset the theory that they have less protein requirements. Given the above, I'd argue they need more. Regardless, it's "close" so, the question remains - do we need as much protein as OVER-HYPED (Supp companies make $$$ cramming this mindset down your throat).
Yup. I dont disagree with any of the points being made, and I want to just add
2-regulated/steady sleep(wake?) times
3-consistent training days/times
4-nothing to do but grow
06-14-2009, 06:54 AM
I doubt the old lmberjacks or railroad workers got proper protein intake, but those fuggers were strong as hell, and likely built for it
this goes with my idea that your growth depends alot on your job or daily activities. Look at some of these guys coming out of basic training, no free weights, but they come out 15-20 lbs heavier and built.
06-14-2009, 07:23 AM
guys..dont loose sight of the fact that in the big prisons (and even smaller county jails) all types of narcotics are being smuggled in. weed, crack, meth, any kind of pill known to man.....whose to say that these guys arent actually getting their hands on real gear?
06-14-2009, 07:51 AM
One of our running backs used to eat 5-6 Taco Bell burritos and drink half a two liter of Cheerwine 1 hr. before a practice or game- he would bring that crap in the locker room with him- and he was 5'9" 200 lbs. and under 5%....another dude I ran track with (a 10.0 s in the 100 guy) used to eat about a lb. of gummy bears before practice or a race- and none of these guys got anywhere near a gram/lb. of bodyweight- the further I get into this game, the less I am seeing that this guideline holds true.....
Guys ate like complete crap, but had physiques that would put most bodybuilders to shame
Dirk Tanis, BA, MSci
Chief Operating Officer, Applied Nutriceuticals
06-14-2009, 08:16 AM
06-14-2009, 08:25 AM
Both prisons that I am familiar with and have friendships with several guards have told me steroids are "smuggled in" quite frequently. I was told a lot of guys look like they are on juice because they are.
06-14-2009, 09:07 AM
06-14-2009, 09:10 AM
Steroids as in actual pinning? Or are we talking a bottle of spawn or such?
06-14-2009, 09:16 AM
06-14-2009, 09:48 AM
good nutrition is somewhat easily obtainable even while in prison actually moreso in prison thatn in county jail. In my county I ate a pretty much clean diet. albeit you gotta have someone putting money on your books but if you do youre set. theres the canteen which was mentioned and every week I would buy beef jerkey, cans of tuna and cans of chicken, (When they were available at first, tons of oats, pb, jelly, tons of red rooster hot sauce to mask the ****ty food, dehydrated beans, and tortillas. That was in addition to what they give you for free. 3 am you get a paper bag full of one cup of sugar free corn flakes, one small milk, one small juice, 6 slices wheat bread, mustard and mayo on bologna and cheese days or pb and j, then you get an apple and orange. Now to eat healthy you could trade with the diabetics who get twice as much fruit, milk and cereal. that bag has to last you all day until 530 for chow time which consisted of the same thing everytime, some kind of texterized meat product soy based im sure such as hot dog, hamburger, bean burrito, pasta with mystery sauce, accompanied with a cabbage salad, mixed green veggies, a wheat roll, corn bread or corn tortillas on bean day, and some kind of dessert such as angel food cake. so pretty much you have all your bases covered, oats and wheat bread for carbs, milk, juice, fruit, protein from meat beans and pb, fats covered by pb, and theres even more food available in prison than in county. but that being said you can get super fat just as easy as super cut up. they also offer honey buns, candies like snickers and twix and stuff like that. go check out mycarepack dot com. I cant type in the actual link since I dont have enough posts, and see some of the things you can get if you were ever in your countys jail or prison since the availability differs county to county youd be surprised at whats available. and oh yeah whats online is only a small fraction of what you can order, each tuesday in my county you get an order form which has around 200 to 300 items you can choose from.
06-14-2009, 02:06 PM
06-14-2009, 02:24 PM
06-14-2009, 02:45 PM
Steroids are available in prisons...plus when you don't have to care about your libido, and rage is actually a positive, its a no brainer.
06-14-2009, 05:33 PM
Now I hear prison on the other hand, federal especially, has much better food. This is first hand from other inmates in parish/county. I haven't spent time in a DOC camp so I don't know personally.
06-15-2009, 03:16 AM
ya man all they do is lift, my brother was locked up for 2 years and for a full year was in solitary confinedment and he said he had a plastic chair that weighed no more than 2lbs and he used to tell me thats what he used to do curls with, and would do it until it burned and thats like 500+ reps and just a **** load of push ups and sit ups.
and when he came out i was like holly ****. he went in at a soaking 175ish came out like atleast 200-220 just ripped
06-15-2009, 03:37 AM
Ive never been to jail but my cousin who has several times (in canada) says its been hard for him to get clean since there are somtimes more drugs and easier access in prison that out.
I have also been told anything is available for the right price. A buddy was telling me today that when he was there someone sent a cellmate an envelope that had been sprayed with a type of crystal meth spray and they were eating it and messed up, not sleeping, staying in their cells and stopped eating.
Crazy stuff and it proves that the long arms of greed can reach anywhere where greedy humans are. Nothing is safe.
I think the supplement industry is overhyped but its a buisness and only as viable as its demand so by that decree the issue is with people not the companies.
06-15-2009, 04:04 AM
man..pct and libido is not exactly a concern of these guys. the mentality is to get jacked because theres nothing better to do. let the state pay for your hospital bills when you have liver failure.
06-15-2009, 06:14 AM
Nothing but time on your hands = strange and creative ways to lift and eat.
Dangerous environment = motivation to find creative ways to train.
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