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  1. so it's been what, 22nd through the 6th or so yeah? pumps still intense (noticably more so than with just creatine, far as you can tell?), and lastly I feel you on the crazy tri pumps Bobo


  2. How big are the tablets? I have wanted to try one of these types of products but i hate taking huge pills. Are they bigger than the gnc multi vitamin?
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  3. They are fairly large.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Biggs
    so it's been what, 22nd through the 6th or so yeah? pumps still intense (noticably more so than with just creatine, far as you can tell?), and lastly I feel you on the crazy tri pumps Bobo
    Yeah it hasn't changed much. I like the energy/endurance it seems to give me better though. Pump to me doesn't always mean better gains, but thats another debate...Its a great combo with creatine.
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  5. Do you think adding it to a plasma expander like NOZ or Swole would be over board? It may stabilize the pump for a longer period of time, IMO.
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  6. For a non-creatine responder, would it be the same to use Swole v2, instead of normal creatine, or would the effects be less?

  7. Just thought I'd share my experience since I've now used StaminO2 and Ox.

    For a month, I did StaminO2 without feeling anything more than a slight increase in endurance. After that, I didn't think it was at all worth the money.

    However, a friend told me that Ox was working great for him, so after a week of being off StaminO2, I started Ox. I'm not sure if the overall feeling I got from Ox was part of a cumulative effect of having taken StaminO2 for a month prior (although I had doubted this because I did have a week off), but the difference was very dramatic.

    All I can say is that Ox is giving me results similar to the ones Bobo posted, and I plan on sticking with that brand in the future.

  8. is the dosing like creatine where you have to take it everyday or can you simply take a serving before a run and expect to see increased stamina?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by hogiejoe
    is the dosing like creatine where you have to take it everyday or can you simply take a serving before a run and expect to see increased stamina?
    everyday

  10. I think I might just try this out for the first couple weeks of my next PCT. I always feel like I'm getting a **** workout post cycle because you get ferocious pumps while on, and then those first 2 weeks off the pump is non-existent. I'd be thankful for the extra endurance in the gym during these times too, but I'd be using it mostly for the pump as a mental thing.

  11. Gonna try adding some Xanthoparmelia to my NOZ for PCT workouts. Hopefully I won't explode.

  12. how many tabs in the bottle and how long does 1 bottle last, i may take this pct. to try and help with keeping some mass on. should you take it for a month at a time or just as long as you want to?

    thanks

  13. looks like 3 per serving, 60 serving per bottle. 180 tabs total.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by ckbuddha
    looks like 3 per serving, 60 serving per bottle. 180 tabs total.
    You take two servings per day; the bottle lasts 30 days.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Trew
    You take two servings per day; the bottle lasts 30 days.
    yes , 3 tablets per serving twice a day !

  16. You guys might want to consider increasing the dosage to 12 grams per day.

  17. I am doing very well on 6g per day.

    I'll try 9g and see whether it goes even better.

  18. Bobo & Rippedup,

    From 0-10 how would you rate OX and why?
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    I would give OX about 8/10 because

    - I can really feel a difference; I am able to do more reps with the same weights I usually used
    - The weights seem lighter
    - I haven't been monitoring my weight very consistently, but I am about 3lbs heavier than before I started OX (about 4 weeks ago)

  20. ive started the ox too but i have some questions,

    i workout in the morning at about 830 is it ok to take your first dose about 730 or do you think that is too soon?????

    also would it be ok to take ephedrine with this product? i read on the bottle about not taking it if you have high blood pressure and i know that ephedrine can raise your BP so would it be dangerous to take both?

    btw: i worked tri's 2 days ago and my arms still feel pumped. i am using this as part of my pct. i started using v-12 2 times per day, nolva, and ox.......

    thanks for the info bro's

  21. Good Guye28,

    Don't worry about the timing you should be fine. BTW, awesome stack, please keep us updated with your progress..

  22. http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=1008

    Looks promising. A few bucks more for 5 less grams of Citrulline Malate, but a slew of other things added.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by supersoldier
    http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=1008

    Looks promising. A few bucks more for 5 less grams of Citrulline Malate, but a slew of other things added.
    There is a very long thread here:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...0&pagenumber=1

    where a few users are providing feedback. So far, there has been an overwhelmingly positive response.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    Gonna try adding some Xanthoparmelia to my NOZ for PCT workouts. Hopefully I won't explode.
    Anything noteworthy? Xantho sounds like a fun supplement anyways, but if it has benefits in the weight room too, I'll almost certainly buy it.
  25. Talking


    Why not take Oxandrolone instead?-oops supplement forum

  26. I have a bottle of Ox, I was actually gonna check for this thread to see how people liked it..

    It'll have to wait until after the Shredded, though..

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Jcc
    Anything noteworthy? Xantho sounds like a fun supplement anyways, but if it has benefits in the weight room too, I'll almost certainly buy it.

    Yeah Xantho and Cnidium are so cheap I figered why not?

    They work fairly well on their own and if mixed with a plasma expander like NOZ or whatever, they seem to really get the vascularization going. I had some pretty sick pumps and I'm generally not very vascular due to lack of cutting and low blood pressure. I kinda worry about potential health risks of mixing these though.

    Haven't tried OX but have used bulk CM. I really liked it but the cost does not justify itself for me. It gave me nice even energy throughout the day and a boost in endurance when climbing mountains. If the bulk price would drop dramatically then I would use it all the time. *hint hint sponsors*

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Trew
    Just thought I'd share my experience since I've now used StaminO2 and Ox.

    For a month, I did StaminO2 without feeling anything more than a slight increase in endurance. After that, I didn't think it was at all worth the money.

    However, a friend told me that Ox was working great for him, so after a week of being off StaminO2, I started Ox. I'm not sure if the overall feeling I got from Ox was part of a cumulative effect of having taken StaminO2 for a month prior (although I had doubted this because I did have a week off), but the difference was very dramatic.

    All I can say is that Ox is giving me results similar to the ones Bobo posted, and I plan on sticking with that brand in the future.
    That's strange, I had the exact opposite effect as you. I thought Stamin-02 was great and that SAN OX sucked. Plus Stamin-02 tastes great and SAN OX tabs are huge and not easy to swallow.

    I have to agree with Bioman, CM was a great energy booster for me, but it's too pricey for what it does. Maybe we will get lucky and bulk prices will decrease within the next year.
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