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    Lowest stim , pre w/o supp ?


    Looking for something to take pre workout that has caffeine/ or any other stim in it but not too much. Currently have taken ragnarok caffeine free but I need something stronger. Sit infront of a desk all day and dont get to the gym till 1am (go to sleep around 4 -5am, i work nights). Want something to give a some energy but not so much that I won't be able to fall asleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by system60 View Post
    Looking for something to take pre workout that has caffeine/ or any other stim in it but not too much. Currently have taken ragnarok caffeine free but I need something stronger. Sit infront of a desk all day and dont get to the gym till 1am (go to sleep around 4 -5am, i work nights). Want something to give a some energy but not so much that I won't be able to fall asleep.
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    Reading through the threads it sounds good.

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    RPM. 1) You need to take it 1.5-2hrs pre-workout to get the full effect. 2) it has naringin in it, giving greater effect with less caffeine.

    Less caffeine taken longer before working out/bed time = win.
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    Why not try ragnarok with the caffeine
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    how much caff. per serving, last pre w/o supp w/ caff I had was SAN Fierce. Took it around 12:15am and was still wired at 5am
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    Quote Originally Posted by system60 View Post
    how much caff. per serving, last pre w/o supp w/ caff I had was SAN Fierce. Took it around 12:15am and was still wired at 5am
    I sent you a PM a while back...hope you got it since this thread died, haha
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